[dungeoncrawl] Re: Some definites
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:29:32 -0400
I thought about checking the Forgotten Realms book, but then I decided not
to. I don't think we should use them as a model. Instead, we should do what we
think is right for our world. If we don't look anything like the Forgotten
Realms, more power to us.
Damon Kline wrote:
> Just chiming in quick here, how many greater/intermediate/lesser powers are
> there in the Realms? Not that I want to model it completely after those
> stats, but it would give us a good idea of a general number.
>
> I was thinking that Dennis would definitely be a greater power, along with
> some of the major points of interest. Portfolio's like Magic that can
> encompass a lot of worshippers would be greater deities, but then again, you
> have Gods like Tyr who is a greater power, but he is the God of Justice.
>
> I'm rambling because I'm trying to quickly jump into a conversation that
> needs to have a lot of thought put into it. Maybe I can try and look at my
> books tonight and come up with some ideas.
>
> By the way, does anyone happen to have my copy of the Forgotten Realms book
> for 3rd edition? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Bobby?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:15 PM
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> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Some definites
>
> I couldn't agree more. For example, I believe that only my
> characters should be greater gods, with everyone else demoted to
> demipower status.... :)
> As you can see, I reduced Zolkiir in power to intermediate, and
> would be willing to go further down the power chain. I also have no
> problem with Faceous being reduced. I would reduce Magnus in a
> heartbeat; I think he would be more interesting as a lesser power, since
> he doesn't really fit any of the major portfolios. However, I know he
> will jockey for a high position. He is, after all the God of Power and
> Ambition, so it just makes sense. It might be more interesting to start
> him out at a lower power level, and then we have all kinds of plots as
> he tries to make his way up the power scale.
> I guess this brings up a good point. Who decides power levels? Is
> it the Ao type demipower? Dennis? Group consensus? Perhaps Magnus is
> slapped down to a lower power level and he has no choice in the matter.
> I like that best, and it has lots of adventure possibilities.
> So Jim is right. We need to knock some powers down to a lower
> level. Suggestions?
>
> jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > I know what you mean - I don't want to
> > hurt feelings either. We need to
> > understand that a god who is lower than
> > greater or intermediate is not
> > necessarily less important or less
> > prestigious - certainly not less
> > interesting as a result. After all,
> > the Greeks only had one greater god -
> > Zeus.
> >
> > I'd rather have an interesting lesser
> > power Nelik, for example, than an
> > overblown and lofty "creater of the
> > world"-powered Nelik to spare feelings.
> >
> > On my own side, for example, Escrima
> > really captured many things in her
> > career - ruthlessness, selfishness,
> > ambition, even combat effectiveness -
> > but I took her a different direction as
> > a goddess. I figured that Dennis
> > already had a great spot on the
> > pantheon, and Ambrosia seemed to have a
> > neat niche - there was no reason to
> > expect all of my characters to
> > be "stars". Stand to reason?
> >
> > This might be a good thing to resolve
> > sooner rather than later -
> > thoughts/opinions, anyone?
> >
> > >
> > > I also thought we had too many
> > greater gods. I think it was my
> > > desire not to hurt anyone's feelings
> > that made me boost so many
> > > characters in power level. However,
> > Magnus will take the magic
> > > portfolio if it means a boost in
> > power. Sadly, I'm serious about that.
> > > That's the sort of thing we may have
> > to role-play.
> > >
> > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > > Some more thoughts (without being
> > too
> > > > nitpicky, hopefully) - I'm thinking
> > > > that maybe we have a few too many
> > > > greater gods. I kind of see greater
> > > > gods as those who represent major
> > > > forces of reality - like love, hate,
> > > > destruction. Some of the ones on
> > the
> > > > list (Gadget, Nelik, Karvas, even
> > > > Ambrosia) are making me think sort
> > of
> > > > hard about this - should we maybe
> > make
> > > > sure that the "primary" characters
> > get
> > > > first dibs, but not worry so much
> > about
> > > > making them super powerful?
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to waffle; maybe it
> > would
> > > > just help to have some feedback form
> > > > other people -
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > D'oh! I forgot the Sun part
> > of
> > > > Dennis' portfolio.
> > > > > I just made some adjustments
> > > > below.
> > > > >
> > > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1-5: Demigods
> > > > > > > 6-10: Lesser Deities
> > > > > > > 11-15: Intermediate
> > Deities
> > > > > > > 16-20: Greater Deities
> > > > > > > 21+: These are
> > overpowers,
> > > > like
> > > > > > Ao. None of our characters
> > would
> > > > > > > be of this power level.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Carpathia: Intermediate God of
> > > > Death and Mercy; Judge of the Dead
> > > > > > (12)
> > > > > > Gadget: Greater God of Laws and
> > > > Security (18)
> > > > > > Karvas: Greater God of Torture,
> > > > Fear and Suffering (19)
> > > > > > Nelik: Greater God of
> > Halflings,
> > > > Mischief, Stealth and Subterfuge
> > > > > > (16)
> > > > > > Sir Baran: Demigod of Paladins
> > (5)
> > > > > > Saurote: Intermediate God of
> > > > Travel and Athletics (11)
> > > > > > Ambrosia: Intermediate Goddess
> > of
> > > > Freedom, Independence, Romance,
> > > > > > Passion and Creativity (11)
> > > > > > Escrima: Intermediate Goddess
> > of
> > > > Winter, Loneliness and Secrets (12)
> > > > > > Dennis: Greater Power of
> > History,
> > > > Literature, the Arts and Culture
> > > > > > (20)
> > > > > > Baish: Greater Power of War
> > (16)
> > > > > > Quasit: Greater power of Bad
> > Sun-
> > > > burns and Low Rolls (17) (Again, he
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hasn't been mentioned much.
> > I'm
> > > > thinking that Damon has a better
> > > > > > idea.
> > > > > > > I was thinking of Quasit as a
> > God
> > > > of Strategy, Forethought and
> > > > > > > Planning.)
> > > > > > Faceous: Greater God of Justice
> > > > and Redemption (16)
> > > > > > Magnus: Greater God of
> > Ambition,
> > > > Power and Chaos (19)
> > > > > > Zolkiir: Intermediate God of
> > > > Invention, Technology and Knowledge
> > (11)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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