[drivingpairs] Re: sorrel and Chestnut

Shade is subjective, breed centric, and regional.  One person's sorrel is 
another's chestnut.  The standard nomenclature today is that the two are 
interchangeable and synonymous.  Where I live - no matter the shade if it is a 
red Quarter Horse it is a sorrel.  If it is a red Arabian it is a chestnut.  If 
it is a Belgian it is a blonde sorrel.  Phenotype and genotype could be 
identical on all three but because of the breed they are described differently. 
 And that is why the equine genetics world has gone to the standard 
nomenclature it has.  :o)  

Lewella

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Candis Hankins 
  To: drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:44 PM
  Subject: [drivingpairs] Re: sorrel and Chestnut


  Genetics are very cool, but cowboys go by what they see and therefore 
  named the colors so you could tell one horse from another.  If you had a 
  pair of horses, the chestnut was the one with color that did not fade on 
  the legs.  The sorrel was the one with lighter color points. (excluding 
  white markings of course) You know, phenotype and genotype?

  L.M. Tembreull wrote:

  >Extremely outdated book that predates genetic testing.  We now know they are 
genetically the same no matter what shade they are.  Much better reading would 
be Dr. Sponenberg's Equine Color Genetics or the website EquineColor.com.
  >
  >Lewella
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Candis Hankins 
  >  To: driving pairs 
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:00 PM
  >  Subject: [drivingpairs] sorrel and Chestnut
  >
  >
  >  I used to drive a pair of horses that were the same shade of red, but 
  >  one was a sorrel and one was a chestnut.  Read Ben Green's book titled 
  >  'The Color of Horses' and the differences will be obvious.  Both come in 
  >  several shades, but a sorrel will fade out on the legs and may have a 
  >  lighter tail and mane.  A chestnut carries the same color down to the 
  >  foot (not counting white markings.)  Very different!
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