[drivingpairs] Re: "Teaching"

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Very well put!  There are always different roads (methods) to get to a
certain point.=0D
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From: drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Date: 04/16/04 19:05:37=0D
To: drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Subject: [drivingpairs] Re: "Teaching"=0D
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Albert,=0D
  To a certain extent I agree with you.  However, you are talking=0D
about one method of training the horse that I call "gentling".  The=0D
other method that Deryn and I alluded to I call "breaking".  Breaking,=0D
in modern useage has fallen into disfavor because of it's violent=0D
connotations.  We live in an area of Kansas that doesn't have many=0D
remaining horsemen and the popular concept around here is that if he=0D
don't buck he isn't worth much.  Comes from too many cowboy movies and=0D
rodeos(VBG).  What little harness work in this part of Kansas is due to=0D
a few remaining draft type animals mostly of uncertain parentage.  The=0D
methods that were used around here and over most of the world is to=0D
allow one or more knowledgeable well trained horse(s) do some initial=0D
training of the youngster for you.  Animals can communicate just what is=0D
necessary to be with the herd to the youngster.  If he doesn't see any=0D
benefit to this he may well throw a tantrum.  In their world Right is=0D
Might.  They will conform.  When the old horses get them to a more=0D
amenable stage the trainer will have less work.  It is a time honored=0D
way of starting a horse and probably has successfully been used for a=0D
thousand years or more.  In all honesty, it probably isn't too bad of a=0D
way to go.  I doubt that many animals are rendered useless or seriously=0D
hurt and it certainly is less dangerous to the human element and less=0D
destructive of expensive equipment.  It's main benefit is time.  It=0D
takes less time.  Time is economics.  I certainly wouldn't try it unless=0D
I knew a trainer that I would call a horseman.=0D
Just my humble opinion.=0D
Lynn from Sedan=0D
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BTW, you might note that during the stagecoach days it was a common=0D
occurrence for the way stations to gather a few wild unbroken animals=0D
off the range, get a lot of big beefy men to hold them down, harness=0D
them to the stage and the driver would check to see his passengers had a=0D
good hold on anything solid and let them go.  Usually after a circle of=0D
a mile or so, they would get the kinks out of them and by the time they=0D
got to the next stage station they would be going like a well trained=0D
hitch of horses.  Sort of on the job training.  There are numerous=0D
compliments from British horsemen in the historical record about this=0D
sort of stuff.  A good whip is a good whip no matter what station of=0D
life he comes from.=0D
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From: drivingpairs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
[mailto:drivingpairs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Albert=0D
Seminatore=0D
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:26 PM=0D
To: drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Subject: [drivingpairs] Re: "Teaching"=0D
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I question the process of hitching with a BIG STOUT horse.  This is not=0D
teaching the horse anything EXCEPT to follow the big stout horse.  In=0D
the end they depend on each other to get a job done without=0D
understanding what you are asking them to do.=0D
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