[drivingpairs] Re: Pole bumping horse in the nose



Let's see the picture!

Peach York
Oroville, Calif.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terri Barker" <barker.terri@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: [drivingpairs] Re: Pole bumping horse in the nose


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>
>
> Hello,
> I have been enjoying as well as learning so much from this website.
> I really appreciate all of you that leave so many valuable bits of
> information!
>
> I started my first pair this Spring and have had a wonderful time with my
> two Morgan  geldings, Rudy 4 yrs and Buddy 6 yrs. Wonderful is not a 
> strong
> enough world. Absolutely  awesome! They are so much fun!
>
> When training my Morgans to drives as a pair, right away I noticed the 
> same
> problem with the pole bumping them in the nose.
> The pole should be at a length  in line behind their chin and yet in front
> of their throat at breastcollar level. The book says this is the ideal
> position but in reality with the bumps, lumps, twist, turns, hills, give 
> and
> take of the harness, proper bending,  etc..., it does not always stay 
> there.
> The crab on the end of the pole was always hitting them in the chops!
> Worse yet, while one horse was higher than the other due to the terrain,
> the pole strap that was attached swivel crab end would automatically 
> swivel
> up with the horse thus twisting the other "fixed" side of the crab and
> attached pole strap down dragging the other horse with it!
>
> My husband has built me 3 beautiful  carriages over the my years driving
> single. He is always inventing new ways to make them better.
> My husband, the inventor, designed a stainless steel independent 
> "floating
> crab".  Each side of the crab moves independently from the other allowing
> the horse on either side to have the freedom of movement they need without
> affecting  his partner. This also allows for a smooooooother ride. Not so
> much jerking around. They are about approximately 4" across  each for a
> total 8" across the end of the pole which alleviates most of the potential
> of it hitting them on the chin.
>
> If your interested in seeing them I will post a picture.
> Hope this helps.
> Have a great day!
>
> Terri Barker
>
>
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>
> From: "Debbie Buick" <found1farm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:30 AM
> Subject: [drivingpairs] Pole bumping horse in the nose
>
>
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>> I was driving my pair of Morgans yesterday and the young one was wanting
>> to
>> be too forward and strong, I brought him back in the reins, and I noticed
>> on
>> circles the swivel pole end was very close to bumping him in the nose 
>> when
>> it bounced, which kept his head up higher.  This happens when he's on the
>> outside of the circle  on the marathon vehicle.  I wouldn't want to
>> shorten
>> the pole any more, is this a problem?  Are they not adjusted properly?
>> The
>> pole is directly attached to the breast collar with quick releases.
>>
>> I also use breeching when driving the pair.  Quite frankly I'm afraid not
>> to
>> use it even though the carriage has breaks.  I guess I don't trust myself
>> to
>> use the breaks when necessary and wouldn't want the carriage to run into
>> them!  I do see most pair drivers don't often use breeching.  Maybe I'm
>> overly cautious?
>>
>> I am really having fun driving these two young horses, two peas in a pod,
>> full brother and sister, 3 1/2 and 6 1/2.  I only drive about every 
>> second
>> day as two days in a row the young guy backs off a bit the second day.  I
>> want him to stay enthusiastic and happy in his work.
>>
>> Any ideas, let me know!
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
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