[dokuwiki] Re: pending patches?

Anika Henke a écrit :

Another question for the Frenchman (if you don't mind):
No problem. For the record, I am not French but a French-speaking Belgian. Very close but not identical. Belgian French is not more different from "official French"- if such a thing exists - then any local French in France. However we have our own keyboard layout which is a bit better then the French one.
Do you usually type a " quote " already with the spaces? Or do you type it without them and entrust your word processor to do the spacing?
It depends. In a text editor (MS Word, OOo Writer), I type only the " and it changes to «  if the " is following a space or  » if following a non-space. This is the default setting for the French and Belgian-French locales. 

So the space is automatically added. But the result is immediate.
Typing «some text» or <<some text>> with no space is just plain weird *for me*.
However, most people I know are not bothered with typographical niceties and what are the prescribed characters and would very gladly type <<some text>> and see «some text» or type "some text" and see “some text” (or even "some text" - with no change). 



The reason for my asking is:
Shall '"..."' be substituted with '&ldquo;&#x2005;...&#x2005;&rdquo;' for the French language? Or shall the 1/4em spaces (&#x2005;) be omitted because the French editors would insert normal spaces anyway?
What the width should be is wildly debated (from half-hairspace to justified word space, going through all em fractions).
MS Word uses a space that is approximatively 1/4-em large, fixed width, non-breaking.
The spaces should definitely be _non-breaking_. Things like «<br>some text » or « some text<br>» will look strange to any French reader. So use either no break space (&nbsp;) or narrow no break space (&#8239;) if browsers support it (I don't believe so).
Being a nitpicker, I enter %%<< some text >>%% in DokuWiki and wrote a (perhaps buggy) plugin to get %%«&nbps;some text&nbsp;»%% (only I used utf-8 encoding instead of html entities, not sure that is smart). Of course, I believe that my way is somehow the best one ;-) 

Sincerely,

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Philippe
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