[dokuwiki] Re: pending patches?

Notamment.be wrote:

Anika Henke a écrit :



« He thought ‹ It ›s a man ›s world ›... » (fr)
Do you mean the source text is %%"He thought 'It's a man's world'..."%%? (I use %% as string delimiter to try to avoid confusion with the in-string quotes... I hope this does not create _more_ confusion...)
Yes, that is what was requested. And this is what the typography option in DokuWiki already does: Until now it converts eg. "" to (English quotation marks) “”.
I would find it quite disturbing to enter %%"%% and get %%« %%. (Note : I choose the French example because it is my mother language.) I believe French users most of the time write " when they want to get “/” and use << to get «. Otherwise they quite happily use English-style quotation, even for official publications and in newspapers. (At work, most documents produced use English-style quotation, and I work for an administration that is responsible for French culture... I am the only nitpicker that insists to use French-style quotation.) 

Ah, that answers the question Andi already asked here:
http://bugs.splitbrain.org/?do=details&id=438#comment643
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Hmm I\'m not sure how intuitive this is. I guess a french guy would write <<le quote>> instead of \"le quote\" anyway and wouldn\'t expect usual double quotes being changed to « and »? 
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I was also curious about that. Thanks for the insight! :-)
I still believe that, in accordance to the least confusion principle, Dokuwiki should not substitute «-style quotes for ".
The more I read about quotation marks (and semantics and content and so on), the more I agree.
DokuWiki already substitutes "<<" with "«", etc. (But not < with "‹".) So that would be no problem for French people. But what about the other possible language-specific combinations of "-like characters? 

What should be done?
a) Don't change the typography conversion at all.
b) Only change the typography conversion for languages which have some combination of the following entities for quotation marks: &ldquo;, &rdquo;, &lsquo;, &rsquo;, &bdquo;, &sbquo; (which all resemble either " or '). c) Present quotations marks in an additional or in the existing "special character" picker.
With only b) there would still be missing some quotation characters: &lsaquo;, &rsaquo; and the Chinese/Japanese ones. Maybe a combination of b) and c), adding only the missing quotation marks to the "special character" picker!? 


Anika
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