On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 12:38:22AM +0100, Florian Feldhaus wrote: > I back this. I would love to see a good solution to pay plugin > developers for good plugins. Especcially the WYSIWYG editor. But there > are more plugins out there I would spend money on, if only the plugin > developer then would implement the features I wish for in a given timeframe. Well, have you contacted the developers in question ;)? As for my POV on what you've said: if someone wants feature foo in plugin bar and opens a feature request for it, it's going to be implemented whenever I see fit, after i get other more important things out of the way first, because we all know that time is money, and even if some people don't understand this, some of us do have real lifes ;P. If however, someone is willing to pay money for a feature or even a bug fix (yes, I've taken money for fixing bugs, but getting something in return for 2hours tracking down a partiluar problem "now" instead of "whenever I find some time" makes sense to me), it's automatically going up the importance list - charging money is doing business, doing business is keeping deadlines and making customers happy. As for Andis new plugin. I like the idea, there are other Open Source projects maintainers who do sth. similar. Take Ardour for example, Paul Davis is charging money to be able to work full time on Ardour and to feed his family! I think this is fully legitimate, even in Open Source software, the freesound project asked for money for a new server etc. etc.. Now Andi is trying sth. new, after putting over 5years of time end effort into creating the Wiki engine we all use + countless plugins (which are defining a code quality standard when it comes to DokuWiki plugins) and giving support on the forums, IRC and the mailing list. And to no surprise, there are those random unthankful people which start whining on the first attempt of trying to get some money for spitting out thousands of lines of code in the past years. And this is not about getting rich, 750€ is laughable compared to what you'd pay a developer normally who works on a hourly basis. I mean, look, I've wrote a vim plugin for DokuWiki, it has around 600 lines of code, and on a yearly salary basis of 55.000$ ohloh.org estimates its value at 5.123$! The plugin of Andi, if it works as advertised (of which I'm quite certain), can be of good use in companies who use DokuWiki for their internal documentation and which have different bureaus connected over VPN for example. I think it's probably worth more than those 750€. If I could come up with something as useful as this I'd probably look for myself if there would be a way of getting something in return. But for now I'm happily maintaining those ~26000 lines of php/js/css plugin code together with foosel without charging money for every feature request or bug fix ;). Regards, Michael PS.: I'll hereby happily repeat it again and again and again, please don't top post, especially not in threads where it already has been mentioned that this is not welcome on this list. -- Michael Klier www: http://www.chimeric.de jabber: chi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx key: http://downloads.chimeric.de/chi.asc key-id: 0x8308F551