BlankYeah the event view would be a problem for sure. But I think that for that you could just temporarilly load jaws. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: vista vs xp with jaws Gord wrote: Well, maybe not. As sonar gets more and more control surface support, we should be ablt to access more and more parameters from the control surface sdk. The only problems may be inserting plugs and selecting presets, but I would think there would be a workaround for that. Phil replied: also, accessing parameters and clicking buttons in plug-ins could be an issue. Mind you, it wouldn't be if NVDA had an equivalent of HotSpotClicker built-into it and if NVDA could read off the CWACCESS Window then, maybe not. Also, actually inserting plug-ins shouldn't be an issue as there is the applications key for that. Gord wrote: I don't think we need the video to do much any more. We can get location, selected status, markers, levels, and even the effect names and through act many parameters. All this stuff is exposed in the control surface sdk which can certainly be called from a program like nvda, and through wineyes new scripting environment. I really think I could write a set of scripts that will hardly need to look at the video display at all. Phil replied: possibly however, in order for this to really work without a video driver, we would need control surface support or CWACCESS Window or, similar for the event view, as that currently relies on video driver support. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/