Check in your toolbars and make sure that that "transport large" toolbar isn't checked. If it is then, that could well be the problem as when that particular toolbar is checked, all kinds of problems can occur. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music and audio production URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Cameron To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:54 AM Subject: [ddots-l] trouble inserting an effect in sonar 4 with laptop and CT Hi. I have the jaws keyboard layout set to desktop when I run sonar. I'm using Sonar 4 producer and CT. I've read the cake talking help file on inserting and editing effects, again, However, when I go to a bus to insert an effect, or, when I go to the effects bin, and I try using the applications key, the wrong menu comes up. The menu that comes up is like the one you get when you do alt space. This happens in the bus pane and the track pane. Any tips on how to deal with this? I've tried enter, right click, left click, etc. Nothing is bringing up the right menu. This is probably something very simple, but, I'm missing it for some reason. Thanks, Cameron.