[ddots-l] Re: tract clipping

Thanks shawn and Raymond. I will try these suggestions.

Rod 
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shawn Brock 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:59 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: tract clipping


  hey rod, i cant tell you if your problems are comeing from c t or not.  i hav 
found that the meaders are not varry relyable at times.  not sure if its c t or 
sonar.  i feel so strongly about this that i dont use them varry much.  i giv 
myself anywhere from 2 to 10 d b head room and worry more about these things in 
mastering.  matter a fact even for mastering here i import something thats 
camercial to use as a reference track.  i judge based on my imported track as 
well as the meaders.  but find that the sampel track is more relyable than 
those pesky meaders.  a few things you can try would bee mastering of sorts.  
1, after you mix down import the mix into a new lay out.  and use something 
like the free vst brick wall limetor on the afects ben of the master bus.  you 
can use the vollume trim on the track to push things up to more of an 
exceptable level.  and after this is acheeved just mix down again.  or if you 
dont want to use a brick wall limetor just import a sampel song and try to get 
your work as close in volume as possible.  or if you want to skip all of this 
and even do it quicker you might trying useing a compressor on your master bus. 
 off the top of my head to rays volume i would say the cake walk compressor 
presets for guitar or acoustic guitar.  these will giv you a noticeable boost!  
how ever some times it will take you to the point of destortion.  good luck 
man.  its all pritty easy just a matter of playing around a little and finding 
what works for you.  some people like to use sound forge for these things.  and 
hey if that works what do you say.  i personly hav mastered most of my projects 
in sonar.  and this probly wont change soon.  i think a lot of times what a 
person starts with, is what he will use mostly.  and what he learns to 
manipulate the most is what he will stick with.  dont get me rong i see the use 
in sound forge other wise i wouldn't keep it on the computer.  its just sonar 
seems to be the quickest for me.  good luck guy.
  Shawn Brock
  Cincinnati Sound Lab
  130 East Sixth Street
  Cincinnati Oh.
  45202
  Phone: 513-349-8541
  Web Site:
  www.cincysoundlab.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rod 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:34 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] tract clipping


    I have this problem with a couple of projects:

       When I am converting midi to audio, I try to record with like 2 or 4 DBs 
headroom, on every instrument, except piano, I record at 8 or 10 DB headroom. 
Now, when I mix to get my tract as hot as possible, when I check for clipping 
on the entire project with CT Control F2, it keeps reporting that a couple of 
tracts are clipping. However, when I go and bring them down until there is no 
more clipping, the final project gets mixed at a very low volume. I understand 
that the mastering guy can increase the volume during mastering, but not every 
projects in my studio goes for mastering. Some people just need something to 
share with their friends, so I need to provide the project to them with the 
maximum level as possible. Can I change anything in the way I do things to get 
a much higher level without clipping the tracts. When I check the master bus, 
it reports -8 DB as the output level.

    I am using a delta 44 soundcard, motif es8, and yamaha MG 12-4 mixer.

    I was under the impression that the CT clipping reporting keystroke might 
not be accurate when it is used to check for clipping on all tracts, as suppose 
to on a single tract. Is that true?

    Take care.

    Rod

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