wow. Thanks Mark. I had a fantom x a few years back, and I didn't experiment with it that far. I did notice that the left and right arrows wrapped around. This is good to know though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Dew To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: questions to fantom synthesizer That is not the case with the fantom x. I have edited all my favorite voices with out that experience. The curssor up and down buttons stop at the top and botton. There are some cases where the left and right will circle around. It could very well be, I've been using Roland for 23 years and I am used to the madness of it all. After editing the voices I save them to the user section. Then I put them in the favorite list. There are 20 banks containing 16 slots to a bank where you can save a voice. When you bring up the favorite list the up and down cursor buttons scrolls through the banks and the f1 through f8 below the screen selects the voice. Hold the shift and press f1 through f8, this selects the 9 through 16 voice of that bank. Run the up button up and it stops at bank 1. Run the down button down and it stops at bank 20. They do not wrap around. When you enter the edit mode, the f1 and f2 below the screen scrolls throu the different parameter pages. F1 stops at page 1 and f2 stops at page 18. The up and down cursor buttons selects the parameter to be edited. They do not wrap. I'm not sure, but there could be a setting some where in a menu that would change this. Of course as you know as a blind user, we all have to be determined to find a way. Cheers! Mark At 11:43 AM 10/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: > Most Roland keyboards are largely inaccessible for blind users. The >reason for that is that their cursors wrap around in the menus. They don't >stop at the top or the bottom. So you won't know where you left off if you >forget your last position on a menu. They do sound great though. ----- >Original Message ----- From: Oliver Zenz To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: [ddots-l] >questions to fantom synthesizer >Hi Listers, > >some times I have heared, that the roland fantom gear is little or more >accessible by blind users. does anny body of you know something more? > >I heared the Juno G, and this little thing sounds pretty well! so I found >out, that it consists to be of the same soundchip as like the fantom, >but it >just has 61 keys, and i was looking after one with 88 keys. But all models >have different sounds, and i would love to have the same sounds in anny >keyboard of this gear, so under the link below you will find a kind of >editor and librourian that lets you transfer sounds from one to the other, >wich is normally not possible, because roland placed the waves for the >sounds in each model in different places. now this editor knows where the >waves of each model are placed and makes the apropriat changes to the >sounds. so now one can transfer a sound from the fantom-xs to the juno g >and >so on. > >http://perplextor.wordpress.com/category/juno-g/ > >Thanks and enjoy. > >ciao, > >Oliver > >PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >and in the Subject line type >unsubscribe >For other list commands such as vacation mode, >click on the immediately following link: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or >send a message, to >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >and in the Subject line type >faq > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq