[ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input

You want to get sufficient gain with some headroom so when you mix your 
aggregate doesn't clip. But you always want to get as much gain as possible on 
the input level for each item coming in to be above the noise floor, and not 
amplify things like self-noise on the preamps you're coming in with if you have 
to increase the level post recording.  That's why you might even want a gentle 
smidge of compression on the input that you're recording, that means less 
garbage later when you're mixing.

Nick


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Omar Binno 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:45 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input


  What about keeping the gain at the same level for all tracks on the card, but 
controling each track's volume from the track in sonar?


  Omar Binno

  Website: www.omarbinno.com
  AIM: LOD1116
  Skype: obinno1
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nick Dotson 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:58 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input


    Still point is, don't just use one level for all, set mic level for each 
person using the mic a mic whatever separately if they're going onto separate 
tracks so as to get optimal gain for each track in the recording to be mixed 
down later.

    nick



      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Omar Binno 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:38 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input


      I'm only using the fireface interface and no mixer.


      Omar Binno

      Website: www.omarbinno.com
      AIM: LOD1116
      Skype: obinno1
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Nick Dotson 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:34 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input


        Trim should be set if you're using a mixer, for the recording and 
calibrated to 0VU, usually this can be done with a light probe if there is an 
LED column as with Mackies on each channel, or with an audible VU meter.  Get 
that correct for each mic, according to the signal value coming in, then round 
out your pre-fader EQ and fader level.

        Nick


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Stacy Blackwell 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:51 PM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about microphone gain input


          Omar, in addition to the other comments, I have just recorded 4 lead 
singers in my band with the levels all supposedly set the same.  The male 
vocals did not require much trim during playback, but the female singer, well, 
I am having to really turn up the trim and now a high hiss  is heard when 
soloed.  I think she was scared of popping the mic and held it too far away.  
Also, if a person sings to the side or across the top (depending on the type of 
mic) instead of directly into it, the gain and tone can be affected.  Trial and 
error, live and learn.  But I do think that singers, male or female, differ in 
their abilities to "project" their voices which can result in different gains.  
I have also learned that I should also wear headphones to listen for a constant 
entering volume from the singer instead of listening to it after the recording. 
 Keep in mind that I don't have a "real" studio and have this equipment mainly 
for my own personal songwriting and recording, so this was my first time to 
record other vocalists.  See ya,  S.B.  
           

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          From: omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [ddots-l] question about microphone gain input
          Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:00:26 -0400


          Hello,

          I have my vocal mic plugged into my Fireface Soundcard. When one of 
my female clients records vocals, I end up having to turn up the gain quite a 
bit. However, I notice when I speak or sing into the mic, I need the gain up 
only half way. Is it usually the case that gain input on the soundcard or mixer 
changes from singer to singer, or does it usually stay at the same level.

          Thanks.

          Omar Binno

          Website: www.omarbinno.com
          AIM: LOD1116
          Skype: obinno1


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