[ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks

hi Kevin:
everytime you apply a destructive effect or do any kind of bounce  like 
applying effects, freeze, bounce to track , bounce to clip, you are creating 
new waves and many times leaving behind a lot of waves that will not be used 
anymore.
you can do a consolidate audio, this will create a new folder with only the 
audio that is still being used. after that you can get rid of the other 
audio folder only if it was a per project folder because if you are using 
the same folder for many projects than you can lose audio from other 
projects.
in my opinion the safest way to do it  is by saving the project as a cwb 
bundle file and then when loading it back it will ask you where you want to 
store the audio and you can enter a new folder where you want to keep  your 
trimmed version.
again excuse my english.
hth.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:57 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks


>I know we've discussed this before.  However, I have a ton of projects 
>where
> I've frozen soft synths into tracks that eventually got rendered as mp3s.
> Assuming I unfreeze all those soft synths, how can I get rid of all the
> audio tracks that the freeze command initially created?  I'm pretty sure
> that the presence of frozen and thawed wave files is needlessly chewing up
> hard disk space that I would like back.
> Thanks for any answers,
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
> Behalf Of Luis Elorza
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:51 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>
>
> when you freeze a track or synth a wave file will be bounced with all
> effects and eq applied.
> automatically the eq will be disabled. because your eq is already bounced 
> on
>
> the wave file if you enable the eq it will work but it will be adding the
> same eq you already have on your bounced wave file. the idea of freezing 
> is
> that you can go back and change anything exactly as it was before the
> freezing.
> i recommend not using the eq while it is frozen only if you don't want to 
> go
>
> back at all. then the best thing to do is a bounce to track where you will
> have a new track without any eq or effects inserted .
> hth.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>
>
>> Thanks Luis,
>>
>> I have noticed, though, that the sound on the track does indeed change
>> when I change the EQ while the track is frozen. Sorry if I'm not
>> understanding what you're saying about enabling the eq while the track is
>> frozen, etc.
>>
>> Omar Binno
>>
>> www.omarbinno.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:45 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>>
>>
>>> hi Omar:
>>> the idea tfor using the freeze feature is that  you can go back and
>>> unfreeze it and the track will come alive just as it was before.
>>> when you freeze a track or a synth the eq is disabled. if you enable it
>>> again you will be putting eq over an already  equalized  track . then
>>> when you unfreeze you will only have the realtime eq instead of the one
>>> already bounced to the track.
>>> what i do is to unfreeze first and then make changes and then freeze
>>> again so i can keep  the freezing option as what it is supposed to do.
>>> if you are sure you don't want to   go back you can bounce to track and
>>> erase your frozen track.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:44 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Gord,
>>>
>>> What i am saying though is, if I make the eq changes while the track
>>> is
>>> frozen, will that work? It sounds like its changing, and I am doing it
>>> while it's frozen. Is that okay?
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Gordon Kent
>>>  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:12 AM
>>>  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>>>
>>>
>>>  Omar:
>>>  If you are making the eq changes on the audio track that is
>>> associated
>>> with the soft synth, they will still be in effect when you unfreeze it.
>>>  Gord
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    From: Omar Binno
>>>    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>    Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:01 PM
>>>    Subject: [ddots-l] question about changing eqs on softsynth tracks
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hello,
>>>
>>>    If I change some eq parameters on a soft synth track that has
>>> already
>>> been frozen, do I need to unfreeze that track in order for those changes
>>> to take place when I export, or can the track stay frozen while i make
>>> the eq changes?
>>>
>>>    Thanks.
>>>
>>>    Omar Binno
>>>
>>>    www.omarbinno.com
>>>
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