[ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file

Kevin,

I do...  The reason I suggested MIDI format 1 is because in Omar's case he
wants to preserve the tracks and their order when he loads his files into
the motif sequencer.  I believe the only difference between midi format 1
and midi 0 is that midi 0 merges all of the tracks into one whereas midi
format 1 preserves the tracks.  I think I'm correct about that, no?

Nicaise D


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kevin L. Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:44 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file

Nicase,
        do you own a Motif?  Does it take MIDI format 1 or MIDI format 0?
Kevin

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On Behalf Of Nicaise D
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:30 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file


OK Omar, let's do this.  The following recommendation also applies to your
other MIDI file problem...

You may want to recreate your MIDI file before loading them into the Motif
ES. By that I mean the following--

1. Start a brand new sonar file with only 16 tracks (1 - 16) and chn 1 -
16 assigned to them respectively. 
2. Use the event filter to only copy NOTES from each of your old midi tracks
onto their corresponding tracks in the brand new sonar file you just
created. It's important to filter out just the notes for copying and
pasting. 3.  Do your bank and patch assignment and any other settings you
wish for each track in your new sonar file manually. 4. Be sure to combine
all the note events from your old drum tracks onto track 10 (chn 10) in your
new sonar file. 5. In the end their should only be no more than 16 tracks in
your new sonar file with all drums on trk 10 chn 10. 6. Save your new file
as both sonar and midi 1. 7. Open them and make sure that each format is
playing back just the way you like it. 8.
Now you can load the midi 1 format file into the Motif es. Try that and let
us know. If things still don't work, I'll be interested in seeing the midi
file myself.

Good luck,

Nicaise D

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of omar binno
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:29 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file

I pasted them through Sonar.

--- "Kevin L. Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Did you paste those events in Sonar or on the Motif?
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of omar binno
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:19 PM
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> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file
> 
> 
> Thanks Nicaise and Kevin for your help. When you say I should consider 
> splitting the drums between tracks 10 and 11, I assume you mean copy 
> the events from tracks 17-30 and paste them into 10 and 11? If so, I 
> have tried that and track 10 does not seem to be playing the events 
> from tracks 17-30. Sorry about my lack of experience with this, but 
> this is the first time i've had to work with a file with more than 16 
> tracks.
> 
> Thanks again for your help.
> 
> --- Nicaise D <nicaise@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Omar,  Kevin is right! The built-in sequencer in
> the
> > motif only allows for
> > 16 track at channels 1 through 16 respectively.
> You
> > might want to think
> > about combining tracks 17 - 30 onto track 10 (chn
> > 10) or split all of your
> > drum parts between track 11 (chn 11) and track 10 (chn 10) the motif 
> > es will let you do that.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > Nicaise D
> >    
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Kevin L. Gibbs
> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:35 PM
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file
> > 
> > Probably because the Motif only accepts 16 tracks.
> > So, you might loose
> > 17-30.  Most onboard sequencers have a 16 track limit.  I don't own 
> > a Motif but....
> > Kevin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of omar binno
> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 5:21 PM
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: problem with midi file
> > 
> > 
> > That's a yes to all the questions you posed. The tracks play fine 
> > through sonar, but when i load the file into the motif and play it 
> > from there, they will not play. These are tracks 17-30.
> > 
> > --- nicaise@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > A number of things could be happening---  Let's
> > start with the most
> > > obvious:  Did you check to see that these tracks
> > do actually have data
> > > on them?  If yes  did you check to see that
> these
> > tracks are not
> > > muted? Lastly did you check to see that the
> track
> > output port setting
> > > points to your motif?
> > > Get back if things still don't work.
> > > 
> > > Nicaise D
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