ok Gord that's great, do you then control the overall output by Sonar and control all your inputs by Sonar as well, and leave the q mix stuff alone at all costs? I can't begin to tell you how great this card sounds, and the responce in Sonar is fantastic too. I just don't know why I didn't purchase one earlier. The presonus sounds great too, but it was mainly the pops and clicks I was getting when using my lap top, and no mater what I did, I couldn't get my system to work properly. So the presonus is primarly used on my desktop, and the motu on the laptop. However, I may decide to get a second motu to travel with, as I can clearly see that the stability in their drivers is great, even under vista. ---- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Kent To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: motu sound card Mike: I never have even tried to bother with the cue mix console. Since you have a newer version of the motu than I have and they have made some changes, I couldn't tell you how to raise the output. I think it may be set to -10db but I'm not sure about that. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike C To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [ddots-l] motu sound card Hey Gord or any one on list, I just purchased the Motu 8pre, and love the card sound so far. My only concern is on how to get around the Q mixing console, do I need to use the Jaws cursor? and how can I efectivly lower or raise the main out volume? Any help regarding this would be greatly appreciated.