Hello: Well I'm behind on my mail and might be coming in late here, but what steps did you do when installing the instrument definition? Did you actually select the port and channels in the instrument definitions dialog and then select the motif es8 from the list? If so, you should se 27 banks of patches. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Doctor cc To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:56 AM Subject: [ddots-l] motif Hello every one, I have the motif 8 es, and I am trying to get sonar to tell me what patch names I am using when I use it with the sequencer. I have installed the instrument definition program but I can only get the gm patches. If any one can help I will be a happy man. I thank you very much.