[ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
- From: "Cameron" <cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:24:42 -0500
Hi. The synths used on moving pictures by rush were a mini moog, an
Oberheim OB-x, and anOberheim OB8.
That's what my research dug up anyways.
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:49 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Wow Tim, the PPG sounds like an amazing synth, is it the synth used on Tom
Soyah by Rush.
I loved the sound of the synth on that track, the richness and the faze
effect.
Steve W
If you Lo
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From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:42 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
PPG were a German company with Wolfgang Palm as their chief engineer. He'd
built custom synth units for Tangerine Dream prior to starting up the
company. I had the PPG Wave 2.3, which was a wavetable-based digital synth
with analog filters and 4 envelope generators. The first three envelopes
controlled the usual filter cutoff, volume and pitch modulations, but the
fourth allowed you to flip through a wavetable over the duration of a note.
The basic instrument had a 5 octave keyboard and a very distinctive clangy
sound that stood up well to being layered a lot of times, but there were
lots of possibilities for expansion, which I never got into as my eyes
packed up and my musical revenue went with them. There was the Waveterm,
which was a sampler unit with built-in visual display of the waveform being
manipulated and an 8-inch floppy drive (yes, you didn't misread it - a whole
8 inches). There was a 10MB hard drive unit for serious Waveterm users and
an 88-note weighted controller keyboard with velocity and after-touch and
some of its own sample storage that could be populated by the Waveterm (this
keyboard wouldn't function at all without the main 2.3 keyboard). You could
also use up to 2 expansion units (the 2.3 keyboard units as a keyboardless
rack) to give a maximum 24-note poly. A maxed-out system could be had for
just under £20,000 and you can now buy a very faithful VST version (bundled
with a drum synth and a filter plug-in) in the form of the Waldorf Edition
software pack (think I paid £38 for mine). I sold the keyboard for £1500
when I went to university to retrain after my blindness and I regret it to
this day - my wife misses "the big blue beastie" as she called it (most of
it was black, but the control panel was in a beautiful shade of blue). Andy
Thomas, the guy who sold me mine, says that Frankie's Welcome to the
Pleasure Dome album is the only demo you ever needed for the PPG 2.3, though
most people think it was all done on a Fairlight, most of the synth work was
a PPG. Other notable users are/were Stevie Wonder (that bloke again) and
Geddy Lee of Rush fame, though the instrument is all over the 80s charts.
Best wishes.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 12 November 2009 19:59
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Hi Tim,
I knew that Howard Jones used to like to surround Himself in a Keyboard
Castle when performing live, I never knew that Howard Jones used pricey
Synths like the Fairlight, you really do learn things on this site.
Talking about learning, forgive me but the PPG? what is that?
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Fair point. The trick was to have the capital to buy such a thing then
lease it out - I heard that Howard Jones offset the cost of the Fairlight he
bought by re-mortgaging the family home and then hiring it out until he got
big. My PPG paid for itself by me leasing it out to the Birmingham studio
crowd, otherwise I couldn't have generated enough to keep up the first
year's payments.
Best wishes.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 12 November 2009 19:32
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Tim, Because they were rubbish, is that why you decided not to buy one then?
ha ha.
Back in the Day, if I'd had the money to buy a fairlight, I think I still
would have purchased a fleet of Taxis instead.
Back then you would have got 6 Hackney Carriage Black Taxi Cabs for the same
price as the Fairlight.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:28 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Yup, the Fairlight CMI - cheap rubbish at about £130,000.
Best wishes.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 12 November 2009 19:14
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
What was the other Monster priced Keyboard of yesteryear, I think it was
called the Fair light synthesizer or something like that?
Steve W
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From: "Cameron" <cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Wow that is so neat.
And wow was that a ton of dosh!
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Christer
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:45 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
My father-in-law had the first Synclavier in the UK...
I remember listening to that damn Thriller sample over and over ad
infinitum...
He never really got it to work properly, despite travelling out to Berkeley
and studying the thing with Oscar Peterson!
I remember him buying the Winchester computer to boost its power, or
something like that...
That computer alone, cost him 20k, on top of the cost of the actual
Synclavier, and this was in 1981!
The next keyboard he got was the Juno 60...
A slightly more modest purchase, though pretty cool nevertheless!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Gord,
They're still fetching prices that may make you think twice, though I missed
out on one from a studio clearance over here - it went for £250 and I'd have
certainly offered more than that just for old times sake.
Best wishes.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gordon Kent
Sent: 12 November 2009 15:03
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] memory lane was Re: Re: exporting to mp3
Just a change in subject line guys. My first foray into computerized music
making was the synclavier, which in many ways has never been beaten in terms
of usability. Everything was controled by this huge button pannel and one
large spring-loaded knob on the keyboard unit itself as far as the synth and
sequencer were concerned. Considering the processing they had at the time,
the timing was rock solid and sound designing was (at least for me) a snap.
There are times I seriously think of getting my hands on one now, even
though the tone generators were 8 bit and prone to aliasing.
Gord
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
did anyone ever had the old Atari 1040? This was a 1 mega bite Computer.
In 1986 I used this system before moving to hardware sequencers, I believe
this may have been just before Kate Walk days.
I used this system for 3 Years, it did my head in so much, that I didn't go
near desktop Computers again for at least 15 Years.
Glad I have Sonar now.
Steve W
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From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
The first version of "Pro Audio" I had was 5.0. Before that, I briefly used
Cakewalk Express. Before that, it was an ancient version of Cubase on the
Mac that was half-way accessible with OutSpoken.
Now get off my lawn! *smile*
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Todd Houghton
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:58 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
O MAN. I have to admit that I did use pro AUDIO 9 for about ten years and
still do on OcaTion.
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From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
> Yep. That's how I got it, too. But I'll bet not many of us on this
> list will admit to being old Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 users.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Hall" <truecut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:46
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
>
>
> Hi, I upgraded from Cakewalk 9 Which included the encoder. So if you
> had it thin, they will email it to you free or supply the link to
> download it. I just recently done it. When I got it I saved it to a CD
> for future installs or encases of system restores which removes some
> programs depending upon how far you send your system back. Robert.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren H" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:35 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
>
>
>> You can actually configure any mp3 encoder, but there's a certain
>> degree of tech ability needed to manually enter the settings.
>>
>> Personally, I'd pay for the unlock code from Cakewalk if you have the
>> spare cash.
>>
>> I paid for my version and it was set up in 2 seconds.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Darren
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:29 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: exporting to mp3
>>
>>
>>> You have to pay for it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Todd Houghton
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:17 PM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] exporting to mp3
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi. I want to export to map files and when I attempt to do that,
>>> Hear the encoder needs to be unlocked. What is the best way to go
>>> about this procedure? Thanks allot.
>>> Todd Houghton
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