[ddots-l] Re: emergency help needed on an audio interface

Damon wrote: Hmmm. Am I the only one a little unnerved by this message? 

Phil replied: not unnerved here at all!

Damon wrote: For one, sound on sound magazine gave the tascam fw1884 good marks 
in their review of the unit. For my needs, it has worked really well. I don't 
know what
issues this device has. Are there better surfaces out there?

Phil replied: sure, better surfaces, better pre-amps better audio interfaces.  
The most constructive post on this has been from Bryan Smart from Dancing dots. 
 Well written and as always constructive.

Damon wrote: Probably, but I had started with a sac2k, went to a us2400 and now 
have the fw1884. I didn't
want a separate interface and control surface,

Phil replied: and you didn't have to have one.

Damon wrote: but I am getting one anyway in the end. I didn't like the cheap 
plastic feel of the Mackie and for what
they charge for that interface, they should be ashamed of themselves, honestly, 
or maybe I need to get more oxygen into my brain. I have a yamaha 01v96
digital mixer, which I would not even try to make work with sonar as Yamaha 
could care less about making a sonar template for it. And you'd need the m-lan
board to make it equivalent.

Phil replied: agreed and anyway, that particular board isn't accessible for 
visually impaired users.

Damon wrote: I want to make music, not spend my life programming.

Phil replied: right on!!

Damon wrote: I have been playing for 30 years and maybe I am not pro like U-2 
or Madonna,
but my work speaks for itself, and you can hear it at 
www.keyboardguy.com
. I don't think I am hot stuff, but I think I do pretty damn good work. All I 
want to do is buy the best system I can for the money my cousin and I have
to record my music with and get pro sounding results. I have invested thousands 
of dollars and run into accessibility issues constantly as the rest of
you have, I have traded in gear and lost money due to inaccessibility issues, 
and all I want is to get this studio working so I can make music. I am tired
of the delays and I just want to get it right. I am sure the rest of you would 
feel the same. 

Phil replied: agreed!  Time to get back to work!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Damon Fibraio 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:23 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: emergency help needed on an audio interface


  Hmmm. Am I the only one a little unnerved by this message?

   

  For one, sound on sound magazine gave the tascam fw1884 good marks in their 
review of the unit. For my needs, it has worked really well. I don't know what 
issues this device has. Are there better surfaces out there? Probably, but I 
had started with a sac2k, went to a us2400 and now have the fw1884. I didn't 
want a separate interface and control surface, but I am getting one anyway in 
the end. I didn't like the cheap plastic feel of the Mackie and for what they 
charge for that interface, they should be ashamed of themselves, honestly, or 
maybe I need to get more oxygen into my brain. I have a ymaha 01v96 digital 
mixer, which I would not even try to make work with sonar as Yamaha could care 
less about making a sonar template for it. And you'd need the m-lan board to 
make it equivalent. I want to make music, not spend my life programming. I have 
been playing for 30 years and maybe I am not pro like U-2 or Madonna, but my 
work speaks for itself, and you can hear it at www.keyboardguy.com. I don't 
think I am hot stuff, but I think I do pretty damn good work. All I want to do 
is buy the best system I can for the money my cousin and I have to record my 
music with and get pro sounding results. I have invested thousands of dollars 
and run into accessibility issues constantly as the rest of you have, I have 
traded in gear and lost money due to inaccessibility issues, and all I want is 
to get this studio working so I can make music. I am tired of the delays and I 
just want to get it right. I am sure the rest of you would feel the same.

   

  --

  Damon Fibraio

  screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio

  personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com.

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  myspace: http://www.myspace.com/nhbdamon

  Internet radio show every Wednesday night from 8 to 11 pm eastern

   

  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Scott Chichelli
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:46 PM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: emergency help needed on an audio interface

   

   

   

  From: Scott Chichelli [mailto:4daw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM
  To: 'ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
  Subject: 

   

  HI Bill,

   

  As i had mentioned in my last email to you, concerning the 1884.

   

  part of the issue we feel is the onboard sound of the motherboard we use on 
the LE systems (the one most often bought by you guys)

  this issue should be resolved by changing the motherboard to a different one. 
the one we use in our new Qube system.

   

  for some reason the onboard audio is not compatible with the 1884. this is 
the only possible answer. and again solved by switching to the other 
motherboard we use.

  the Core 2 Pro systems do not have this issue as they use a different 
motherboard as well.

   

  mind you 99% of systems we sell are to the sighted who have no use for the 
onboard Audio. We have no use for onboard audio and therefore do not test 
onboard audio compatibility

  to anything or for anything. in any "tweak for Pro audio" recommendations, 
the onboard is always recommended to be turned off.

  Roseberry simply got lucky as he uses a different motherboard than we do. it 
was in no way shape or form having anything to do with knowledge of pro audio 
and how to build systems for them.

  the fact that Roseberrys system supposedly worked with the Tascam when ours 
did not was the clue to it being the onboard audio.

  as we know Roseberry builds a good box and is one of the few "pro audio 
builders" we actually respect. the other is Sonica.

   knowing his Audio tweaks are close to ours that left only 1 variable. the 
motherboard used.

  again with the motherboard we use in the LE system its 100% compatible with 
all things pro audio (except Jaws and Tascam)

   

  as for the 1884 and Tascam.

  our systems work with any pro audio device out there, without Jaws, the 
tascam works as well (which is not that well) as it can on our system compared 
to any other.

  we have never considered the 1884 to be a good interface, it has numerous 
issues and tascams support is even worse with the warranty worse again (45 
days).

   

  Tascam and Frontier Design (the company who actually designed and wrote 
drivers for the tascam line of interfaces had a huge falling out over this.

  we also told the gentleman who returned his system to us (the only one in the 
last 18 months) from the very beginning, prior to his purchase that we did not 
support the Tascam and Jaws that he was on his own

  using that interface.

   

  as to the comments below by Sean and Phil.

  typical of a forum, there are always 1 or 2 self appointed knowledge gods 
whose own ego's get in the way of the truth and any useful information they may 
have to offer.

   

  i build and support 800 systems a yr for Pro Audio. My client list is absurd, 
(Frank Filepetti, Chuck Ainlay, U2, Madonna, the Grand Ole Oprey, Disney, 
Universal Pictures, Lakewood church and i could go on) not to mention the 
majority of audio interface companies support teams call us up for verification 
of support issues, we are Beta for most of them and the majority have systems 
from us.

   

   And to be frank anyone who thinks the tascam 1884 is a pro interface is NOT 
a pro.

  the Yamaha 01V is light years ahead of the Tascam unit and i barely consider 
the 01V a quality unit. not to mention both are very aged

  a Pro set up would consist of a separate Audio interface such as RME, with a 
control surface like the MCU PRO and a separate Mixer (insert any number of 
mixers like Toft, Sound traks, Sound Craft, Neve, APi, SSL, etc)

   

  So i take their comments with a grain of salt or rather just ignore them for 
what they are Armchair punters.

   

  Since i understand the tascam unit has one of the few easily read control 
panels by Jaws is the only reason i even recommended the fix or consider 
supporting such an inferior unit

  for your clients. IF it makes their life easier then we are willing to assist.

   

  feel free to copy and paste this in to your forum

   

  and as an FYI you can add

  ask Greg Lukens (most likely the most respected sightless guy in the 
industry) what he thinks of ADK

  he has bought at least 20 systems from us.

   

  thanks

  Scott

  ADK

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