[ddots-l] Re: accessible audio effects plugins

Been there with the hardware version, and wrote about getting a refund from 
SweetWater because TC Helicon said there was no way...

Nick

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:45:37 +0100, john coley wrote:

Hi Neville, the unit's great, it's the accessibility aspect that I don't 
like. I think you'd be pleased with the quality of the harmonies and other 
effects, it's just more than a bit of a nightmare to operate without sight.
  I'm hoping that Bryan will post and give us the secret to successful blind 
operation. At best I can see it being a huge learning curve, since not only 
would you have to remember or note down all the menu sub menus, but also 
which of the soft knobs controls which parameter on each menu.
                      John.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neville" <neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:31 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible audio effects plugins


> It doesn't sound like your very happy with it.

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> On
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> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible audio effects plugins

> Hi Neville, as far as I know the only model available is the VoiceWorks
> Plus. As to its accessibility to anything but factory presets is very
> limited without sighted assistance. Although front panel knobs are 
> detented,

> the edit menu has on it 45 or so items on it, and, even though I've gone
> through the menus with sighted assistance and made a list of all the menu
> items access would be incredibly hit and miss.
>  I know that Bryan Smart has said on several occasions that he can do a 
> lot

> with it, although how he manages without sighted assistance beats me. If 
> he
> would perhaps post and let us know exactly how he accesses it, and the
> degree to which he does so unaided it would be of great help to us both.
>  I suspect that the fact that the front panel soft knobs, as well as the
> data wheel are detented helps to a degree.
>  Re your question about splittling harmonies it's a stereo unit, and you
> can pan harmonies to either of the two outputs, but you wouldn't be able 
> to
> split, for example, a four-part harmony onto four tracks, since there are
> only two outputs. You could always buy two, I suppose.
>               Good Luck,
>                    John.

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Neville" <neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:34 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible audio effects plugins


>>I have one more question about the Voice Works. Will I be able to get the
>> same vocal spred on backing vocals with the harmonizer as I would by
>> dubbling each part? Are all the harmonies applied to one track or is 
>> there

>> a
>> way to split them out by parts?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bryan Smart
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:07 AM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible audio effects plugins
>>
>> The only software harmonizer that I know that is worth anything is
>> Steinberg VoiceMachine. You can operate some of its parameters from the
>> track inspector.
>>
>> However, VoiceMachine has never been able to run in real-time in any
>> stable way for me. That's why I gave up on software and bought a TC
>> Helicon Voiceworks.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Dennis Brinkley
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:15 PM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] accessible audio effects plugins
>>
>> hello all besides the ones that come with cakewalk is there any other
>> effects plugins that we can use and that r accessible? I am looking for
>> any ideas and suggestions. hopefully i find a harmenizer plugin that
>> works well have a nice day and thanks for all of your time.
>>
>>
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