Greg: Z3 should be in the vst submenu when youare in the insert soft synths menu. Since it starts with a z, just go to vstplugins, right arrow, and then press the letter z. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Z 3 TA plus 2 I accidently inserted this, while inserting rapture. I tried rapture again and once again inserted this z3 ta plus 2 synth. It's quite nifty. But I went back to the plug in layout that I regularly use because of course, I wanted the rapture, but now when I try to find this other plug in, I can't. Can anyone tell me what I've stumbled on, and how to find it again? Wow I do like some of the presets. I have them saved in one project and it does say, when I do the control Y thing, on the output, that the only thing accessible are the presets, but I really like some of them. I'd like to be able to use it when I liked, and not just when I mess up lol. http://www.gbrayton.com