Dear Phil, You wrote: > Also, the UI hasn't altered that much in Sonar 8.3.1. You would have been able to put out a release that supported that Sonar update, fairly quickly. You could have then spent the rest of the last 6 months, working on other new features and updating your Cake Talking tutorials. Bill replies: As you know, Phil, so much in this life comes down to timing! :) I won't speculate on what might have been. I do think comparisons between how you work as a solo HSC developer and how we work as a team that develops JAWS scripts is not really comparing apples with apples as the saying goes. I will say that I have been fairly adamant in the past about not releasing new CakeTalking features until they have been fully documented in CT's tutorial documents and online help. That is, there have been times in a development cycle when something has been tested and working well but has not yet been documented. I have insisted on that documentation before release. My independent developer sometimes elects to add new functionality in the meantime and I continue to withhold release. One of those unstoppable forces that meets an immovable object situations. So, offering intrepid customers the option to use prerelease software does relieve the urgency to get everything documented before anybody other than our beta testers gets to try new things. It is something that you and a number of other customers have requested and, as I said, I want to try this approach in future. But I continue to believe that one of the strongest features of CakeTalking as a product is the detail found in its tutorials. We have a lot of power users like yourself pushing CT to its limits but we also have even more customers who are relatively new to JAWS, Windows, MIDI, and SONAR. Our ideal is to offer a product that works for both seasoned veterans and rookies. I will never forget the rookies not only because that would be bad for business but also because we advanced users were once rookies too and others helped us along. I realize that I am now preaching to the choir as you yourself are one of the most helpful people on this list. Regards, Bill Bill McCann Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992 www.DancingDots.com Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:41 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What's Going On With CT? Hi Bill. Thanks for stepping up to the plate! It's appreciated! I have placed some comments within your message. Bill wrote: Snip, Anyone who is in this business will tell you that it's not a good policy to discuss features under development for a number of reasons. For one thing, sometimes development for a particular feature fails. It would not be fair or prudent to promise something that we ultimately could not deliver. Phil replied: as someone who is involved in beta testing software, I understand that. However, I am not going to let you off the hook that easily, smile. Why couldn't a release of CakeTalking been put out earlier that would have included support for some of Sonar 8's new plug-ins? Clearly there wasn't an issue with getting accessibility going in them as I have been able to do that with HotSpotClicker and we don't need to wait for a new updated 300 page CT tutorial document to use them. A basic update of the jaws help from within Cake Talking would suffice. Also, the UI hasn't altered that much in Sonar 8.3.1. You would have been able to put out a release that supported that Sonar update, fairly quickly. You could have then spent the rest of the last 6 months, working on other new features and updating your Cake Talking tutorials. Bill wrote; That being said, I am seriously considering the option of offering prerelease test builds for future releases of CakeTalking to customers who understand the potential risks of using something that has not been fully tested yet. Phil replied: that sounds sensible and would result in you being able to run a faster beta cycle as more people running the software equals more bugs found. Also, more of your customer bass and trainers such as myself would be kept happy as they would have access to features such as new plug-ins earlier without having to install HotSpotClicker as not all of your user bass, will want to install HotSpotClicker anyway. Bill wrote: OK, as the saying goes, watch this space for more details soon. And let me be the first to wish you a very merry Christmas! Phil replied: watching this space, and a very happy Christmas to you too! 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