[ddots-l] Re: Tempo and time signature oddities
- From: "Damon Fibraio" <dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:20:18 -0500
I thought as much, but that still doesn't explain why my click track through
the audio metronome got all hosed when I inserted the tempo and time sig
change at the beginning of a measure. It seemed like it added two beats in
the countoff and threw off the click for my song. For instance, I am in 4/4.
I switched to 6/4 and changed the tempo at the same time. What I heard when
the tempo changed was two clicks, then the start of the next measure, when
the measure should've started at the temp/time sig change. Maybe I was off
slightly in my placement of the time sig/tempo change and that's how the
metronome got fouled up, but I don't think so. Will have to experiment with
this and see.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kevin L. Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:13 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tempo and time signature oddities
Like I said, the time signature thing is just a grid against which events
are mapped. I guess that's true of the tempo as well.
K.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:14 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tempo and time signature oddities
From my experiment, I am seeing that when I inserted the tempo change and
the time signature change, it did not affect my audio, the click just went
off from where it should have been. I am only using this to give myself a
decent click track to play along with, and it doesn't sound like the tempo
change is messing with the audio at all.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kevin L. Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:16 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tempo and time signature oddities
Tempo changes do not work well with audio because it stretches or shrinks
audio and that's not good. Further, time sig changes only redraw a grid
against which events can be mapped.
K.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:51 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Tempo and time signature oddities
Hey, everybody. Had this odd thing happen using sonar 4 producer and ct.
I am using the audio metronome and recording all audio tracks. I inserted a
temp and time signature change partway through my song and the metronome
went a little loopy. If I played the track from before the tempo and time
sig change and listen to the metronome, the metronome would change and add
two beats into my count. For instance, I changed from 4/4 to 6/4 and there
are two extra ticks at the different tempo before the one beat of the 6/4
part. It's hard to describe in writing.
Anyway, I am sure I put the tempo and time change at the beginning of the
measure I wanted to affect. If I play the track after the time change, the
whole song is off from the metronome by two beats. Somebody told me that
inserting tempo/time changes only really works with midi tracks and not
audio, but I find this hard to believe, I would think it would work equally
well for audio tracks. Is this true? Thanks for any help on this subject.
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