[ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Dave, can we nickname you Captain Obvious? *LOL* I'm only kidding! I had the same thought myself, after a few back and forths on this one.


Motu, Cakewalk, the actual guy who built the computer - all might be able to help.

At 01:10 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
Annabelle,

Might be an obvious question, but since this is a brand-new computer specifically built to your specifications, pick up the phone and call the designer and discuss the problem with them. Their tech support should be able to help you over the phone since they know your setup intimately. Go to the source. When I have questions about my ADK I call ADK. Simple.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
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From: <mailto:foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>Annabelle Susan Morison
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

It doesn't yell at me about copyright issues, just turns off the audio.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:13 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

This would make me ask what you're recording, that you can sit and type while the computer records, but anyways, I won't bother with that. To be honest, it has nothing to do with anything, but microsoft and the big boys decided that this is how drm would work, and that's how it does. Now, to explain your problem again, switching the monitor is no the big issue, the issue here is that you need to get windows to stop using the motu altogether. Why? Because that way the motu belongs exclusively to sonar. That means if windows wants to shut off audio on you or make ding noises or yell at you for what it thinks is copyright violation (or something close to it), it can do so through the realtec or whatever other audio device you use, as long as it's not the motu, because then you run into problems. Again I ask, have you tried my suggestions about the headphones, or at least checking the "share drivers with other programs" box in sonar's advanced audio options? But windows might still want to shut off the motu on you, so not sure if sharing drivers would fix it...

HTH, D!J!X!



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:15 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Actually, the confusion may stem from what I'm trying to do, While I'm recording, I want to switch the monitor over to the A-switch, on my documents computer, to type while the B-side, my music machine is recording. two separate tasks. I don't see what that has to do with copyright? I'm confused!


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:08 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

OK, well regarding drm, when you unplug something from the computer, specially digital outputs, windows by defaults turns them off or looks for other analog alternatives, as to prevent piracy of any sort. Also, if windows can't tell if something's plugged into an analog jack (by using what is called jack sensing) it also shuts off the output or switches to another available card. This all has to do with drm and preventing you from violating copyright for protected content. For example when playing a protected blue-rey disc, if windows doesn't detect an HDCP (High-definition copy protection) capable monitor/receiving device, it will not play the disc; it's non allowed. If it does play the disc, it will do so in standard definition, not in high definition, it depends how the hdcp was setup for the disc/player.

To apply this to you, because you don't have speakers plugged in, it's probably why your headphones aren't working, though it should detect when you plug them in. It just might be that snese the motu is set to be the default card, when the new card is active, windows won't switch to it, because in your preference you chose the motu as the default card, which it's already using. Therefore, windows won't switch to another card, unless your prefered choice, (the motu) is not available. Hense why I worte to unplug/turn off the motu, plug in the headphones, and power on your computer. Why do all this? Because even if you plugged in your headphones and switched the motu off and windows started using the built-in souncard/headphones, jaws for some reason (at least in my case) takes a bit to switch to another card, and sometimes it doesn't at all until you restart jaws, and if windows doesn't feel like it, it might not switch over and start using your built-in sound card.

HTH, D!J!X!



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:55 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Yeah I got that one.


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:52 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

The headphones and turning off stuff etc. Didn't get the message?

D!J!X!


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:47 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Which ones?


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:45 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

O... it sounded like you were physically unplugging... I guess windows's drm still detects the monitor removal. Did you try my other suggestions?

D!J!X!



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:37 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

No no, I don't switch the cable, it happens when I press the A-switch, to switch to the monitor on my other machine.


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:27 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Then I don't get it, why switch the monitor cable?

D!J!X!



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:16 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

I have my Monitor, Keyboard and mouse plugged into a KVM Switchbox. And yes, the two machines are next to each other.


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:47 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Something Happens In Sonar

Hey are the 2 machines in the same room/next to each other? If so, consider a KVM switch box or a splitter box just for the monitor. Or, if your monitor has multiple inputs, switch that way. Unplugging and plugging the monitor can cause issues, with windows 7's drm, screen resolution and automatic switching, and eventually wire/pin waring problems if using VGA or DVI ports.

HTH, D!J!X!

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:57 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Something Happens In Sonar
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I don't know why, but when I press record, then when I press stop after recording, JAWS won't speak to me. Right now, I have both JAWS and my main Windows Audio, as well as the music I make, coming out the MOTU. I want to have JAWS and the Windows audio come out of the Realtech HD Audio Sound Card, but when I do that, I don't hear anything when I plug the headphones into the jack on top of my computer's tower. Also, if I happen to switch the monitor over to my other machine while recording or playing, the audio engine turns completely off. Is there a way to fix it so that the Audio Engine isn't affected when I switch the monitor between my music machine and my documents machine? I've tried looking at the power options in Windows 7, but that didn't do anything. Please help!

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