It really depends on the kind of loop you want to play. I use cyclone to play short things like hits or stabs from the keyboard. Also, if you are playing a loop but don't necessarily want to play it all the way through all the time, you might want to use cyclone. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Question about psy-klone How do I use it? Is it designed to let you play patches from the key board, I mean wave loops, quicker and easier to insert them in to a project or not/ http://www.gbrayton.com