[ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
- From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:17:47 -0500
Don't you have to use a midi controller of some kind to use step
recording? In Sonar 5, step recording is definitely more user
friendly than it was in Sonar 2.
At 04:28 PM 9/27/2006, Tim Burgess wrote:
Hi,
There's the step recording mode. Haven't played with it for a while, but
this method of recording made a lot of folks a lot of money in the 80s
(giving away my age...).
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Rosser
Sent: 27 September 2006 21:44
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
Hi Tim, my name is Ross, I also am wanting to make use of the piano roll in
sonar 5. I see what you are saying about jaws not being accessible in the
piano roll window, I was wandering is there any other way of creating
bassline,synth patterns without using the piano roll. Obviously also without
using a keyboard or some instrument, I want to be able to do it myself on
the computer. thanks Ross
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:05 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
> Phil,
>
> The Piano Roll is a sort of half-way house between step record editing
> and editing using the Event View. It's a lot easier for a sighted
> person to see where notes line up to others at their start and end
> points when using this view, so it's really useful if you're preparing
> patterns, drum or otherwise, that you're intending to loop, as you can
> make note durations, etc, really tight without having to quantise.
>
> Must have another look at it myself to try and figure out how you
> could express its output in speech and/or Braille, but it certainly
> wouldn't be easy, though it would be great if we could make it possible.
>
> It's absolutely the right thing to do to define to a manufacturer why
> we need something to work then offer suggestions as to possible
> methods of making it happen.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
> Raised Bar Ltd
> Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
>
> Don't forget to vote for change at
> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Phil Muir
> Sent: 24 September 2006 08:48
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>
> Hi Sean!!
>
> It's a view that's never been supported by CT. My guess is that, if
> it were scriptable then, David would have done it by now.
>
> I need to take a look at it again. Looked at it briefly however,
> still not entirely convinced that, it's a view that could be made
> really accessible in it's current state, ether with CT or, JSonar.
> For example, if you locate a MIDI note in there, pressing enter on it,
> won't allow you to alter the value.
>
> Also, the various values in the piano roll view, only spoke in JSonar,
> when I set the Jaws highlight to "Say All." Perhaps if we had a good
> understanding of what the piano roll view is used for then, we could
> present a good case to 12 tone, explaining why it doesn't work in it's
> current state, and what would be required to put it right.
>
> It would be worth you getting some of your eyes over there to take a
> look at it with you. That would probably confirm it for you.
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean A. Cummins" <Sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>
>
>> Why is that Phil?!
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Hi,
There's the step recording mode. Haven't played with it for a while, but this method of recording made a lot of folks a lot of money in the 80s (giving away my age...).
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
-----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosser Sent: 27 September 2006 21:44 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
Hi Tim, my name is Ross, I also am wanting to make use of the piano roll in sonar 5. I see what you are saying about jaws not being accessible in the piano roll window, I was wandering is there any other way of creating bassline,synth patterns without using the piano roll. Obviously also without using a keyboard or some instrument, I want to be able to do it myself on the computer. thanks Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
> Phil, > > The Piano Roll is a sort of half-way house between step record editing > and editing using the Event View. It's a lot easier for a sighted > person to see where notes line up to others at their start and end > points when using this view, so it's really useful if you're preparing > patterns, drum or otherwise, that you're intending to loop, as you can > make note durations, etc, really tight without having to quantise. > > Must have another look at it myself to try and figure out how you > could express its output in speech and/or Braille, but it certainly > wouldn't be easy, though it would be great if we could make it possible. > > It's absolutely the right thing to do to define to a manufacturer why > we need something to work then offer suggestions as to possible > methods of making it happen. > > Best wishes. > > Tim Burgess > Raised Bar Ltd > Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 > > Don't forget to vote for change at > http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Phil Muir > Sent: 24 September 2006 08:48 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes > > Hi Sean!! > > It's a view that's never been supported by CT. My guess is that, if > it were scriptable then, David would have done it by now. > > I need to take a look at it again. Looked at it briefly however, > still not entirely convinced that, it's a view that could be made > really accessible in it's current state, ether with CT or, JSonar. > For example, if you locate a MIDI note in there, pressing enter on it, > won't allow you to alter the value. > > Also, the various values in the piano roll view, only spoke in JSonar, > when I set the Jaws highlight to "Say All." Perhaps if we had a good > understanding of what the piano roll view is used for then, we could > present a good case to 12 tone, explaining why it doesn't work in it's > current state, and what would be required to put it right. > > It would be worth you getting some of your eyes over there to take a > look at it with you. That would probably confirm it for you. > > Regards, Phil Muir > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean A. Cummins" <Sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:16 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes > > >> Why is that Phil?! >> >> SeanA! >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> Subject:- faq >> >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >
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