[ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Thanks! Another + for the saffire...

D!J!X! 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:44 AM
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I can answer you on the pre amp and latency, one of my lecturers raves about
the focusrite pre ams he has been using them for the past 15 years, he says
they have a legendery warm sound with awesome dynamic range and high gain
level. He has been using focusrite for the low latency and because the
products are relyble. I would trust what he says he has been in the
recording industry for years and he knows his stuf. 
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro
From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/11/2010 15:40

Hey Tim, how do you find the preamp quality and latency on that unit? What
kind of projects have you used it on?
Have you tried using it as a stand alone unit? If so, is it accessible?
Sorry for all the questions, hope you can give some answers. lol

THX, D!J!X!

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Burgess
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:36 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Hi,

I've been using a Pro 40 for about a year now and I can heartily recommend
it on the PC - we've even got respectable HSC support for the software
control panel.  On the Mac it's a bit more problematic, as its control panel
is totally invisible to Voice Over.  Having said that, I've found Focusrite
support very helpful in terms of sending me configuration files that do what
I want and even the Mac interface will allow you to load these on demand.

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: 05 November 2010 13:23
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

I myself am doing research on them, as I'll have to get a new interface for
my daw, I need 16 ins minimal, so I've been looking at the saffire40 I
believe. I know they work well under windows7, I think some people onlist
are or have used them, so they can comment more on the accessibility. My
concern is not so much accessibility, as once I set up the system I most
likely won't need to change it, my concern is with latency and preamp
quality. I use a lot of soft synths and effects, so low latency is important
to me, and I don't have money to shell out for some expensive preamp, so I'd
like something that's decent on the interface already. It seems that
focusrite included some of their good preamps on there, so it makes me
happy, all the reviews are favorable, but I can't say for sure if it'll meet
your needs/work with your setup because: 1 I don't know what your setup
consists of, and 2: I haven't personally used the interface. But if you buy
it from a reputable dealer, you can try it and if it doesn't work return it
before 30 days, depending on where you're located.
I know many here and on other lists favor the fw1884, but from my experience
with tascam, their preamps are ok, not all that for that price range though,
and they've discontinued it, so no luck there...

HTH, D!J!X!

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:59 AM
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That's cool, what do you think of the focusrite cards and spesifically the
safire 6, and another thing is it accessible and does it work on windows 7?
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro
From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/11/2010 12:41

That's good to hear!

D!J!X!
 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Burgess
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 5:33 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Hi,

I've just received a message from Focusrite indicating that Pro Tools 9 will
work with their Saffire interfaces - I'm now trying to find out for sure if
this is just for M-Powered and/or LE. 

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: 04 November 2010 18:31
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

I just don't know. Last month, I tried about 8 different new interfaces from
different vendors. They all absolutely suck. Right now, I'm selling everyone
Mackie Onyxes. The Onyx I series mixers are the only interfaces that work
great for us out of the box.

There are other interfaces that work, but all require some extra time and
effort. Most don't have accessible control panels. You can make some of
those panels work through hot spot sets, but subjecting novice users to Hot
Spot Clicker isn't something that they appreciate.

If you can afford it, get an Onyx mixer. That is the best I can suggest now,
for performance, stability, and accessibility. The entry 820I has 2
mic/instrument inputs, 2 stereo inputs, and a single input that is either
mic or stereo. You need $400 for it.


Mackie also makes a line of Onyx interfaces. These aren't compatible with
Pro Tools, though. I haven't tried them yet, but suspect that the driver
quality should be similar (that is, good).

Bryan

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:43 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Yeah, that's my delemma now,  finding a good audio interface that'll work
well with sonar on the pc... Something that meets my budget and i/o
requirements... The other question too is should I go firewire, USB? PCIE?
Are there any systems that take advantage of USB3 bandwidth etc.
I think my relationship with m-audio is over for now lol.

D!J!X!

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:31 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

This is true. You can put the system on suspend/hibernate if you power down
the ProjectMix first. That's annoying, though. You must also close Sonar.

If I'm closing Sonar and powering down the ProjectMix, I might as well be
shutting down and rebooting. In that situation, the ProjectMix is starting
up while Windows is starting up. I have a solid state drive, anyway, so
reboots aren't all that long.

It's lame, but Avid has pretty much brushed off further development a while
back, and the ProjectMix is no longer being sold. Go buy a 003, or
something, except the 003 is terrible with Sonar.

Bryan

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:32 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

C1E won't affect that issue, that has to do with the processor in
particular. The setting which might help fix the problem is USB suspend on
the windows vista/7 advanced power settings.
The other thing is maybe unplugging the unit before putting the system to
sleep.
C1E halt state has to do with the procesor and how windows handles power to
it, reducing and increasing the voltage to the cpu depending on system
tasking. This might or might not be a good thing to have disabled, depends
on your hardware configuration, in specific the motherboard you're using.
Having c1e disabled on some boards can cause damage to the processor after
long periods of use...

HTH, D!J!X!

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dan Haley
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:16 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Have you set the power options in Windows 7 to a high performance profile?

Look for a power management utility called C1E in the BIOS and disable it.

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:56 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

The ProjectMix is an exception, for some reason. I have a ProjectMix, and
have been using it on Windows 7 64-bit. It runs fine.

 

It isn't perfect. Like most all of M-Audio's external devices, it doesn't
support suspend, so, if you put the computer to sleep and/or hibernate, it
won't work anymore when you wake the computer up. As long as you don't use
suspend/sleep or hibernate, and just shut the computer down when you're
finished working, there aren't any problems. The control panel application
also requires you to use the Jaws cursor, and is only semi accessible.

 

In terms of performance and stability, though, it is fine.

 

Bryan

 

From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:48 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

 

You might since you'll most likely have to upgrade drivers. But it also
depends on hardware configurations from what I've seen, so you just might be
in luck...

 

D!J!X!

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Charles Marston
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:30 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Hello:

I currently use M-Audio's ProjectMix on my XP system and it works great.
Will I have these driver problems if I upgrade to Windows 7?

 

 

From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>  

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:46 PM

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

 

Unfortunately that's something I've been discovering on systems that i've
built for clients and on my own system. Now I'm getting rid of my perfectly
fine delta1010lt, because m-audio refuses to fix whatever issues are
plaguing their newest drivers for windows7, which on most modern systems
introduce this horrible sounds. There are some work arounds which may or may
not work, but they're not recommendable for everyone, and it should be fixed
at the root of the problem, now with extraneous work arounds... Supposedly
it has something to do with the way it buffers between the application and
the memory. That's the only response we've gotten from m-audio. No word on a
fix and if they'll even make 1. So any xp users who want a nice interface
who are still using not-so-recent hardware, if you want a delta1010lt in
perfectly working condition, let me know!

 

HTH, D!J!X!

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brandon Keith
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:19 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

Very interesting. 

I have playback on my M-Audio just fine, but when I plug in my myk and
record, it's scratchy and not very good. Sad smile emoticon

With my vista, the same thing, great for playback and recording, but it
would just randomly stop working after a while.

Is this the Audio Interface you're talking about?

http://www.mackie.com/products/onyxiseries/

 

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From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:08 PM

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

 

Yes. M-Audio used to be well known for rock solid drivers. Strangely enough,
they're now notorious for terrible drivers.

 

M-Audio is no longer a company. M-Audio was purchased a few years back by
Avid. Avid now uses M-Audio as a trade name for multimedia products that
they make for low-cost consumer applications. That's why older M-Audio
product seem quite a bit more premium than the million varieties of cheaply
built plastic junk that they sell now. Unfortunately, even the older gear
needs newer drivers to work with newer versions of Windows. Avid doesn't
seem to feel that it is a priority to support gear that they no longer sell.
Besides, they aren't worried about M-Audio's professional reputation, since
pros wouldn't buy any of their current gear. They only care that casual
purchasers at local computer stores will recognize the M-Audio name, and
will make their $150 impulse purchase of a M-Audio plastic thing over their
competitor's $150 plastic thing. M-Audio was good competition for Avid,
anyway, so killing off M-Audio's better product lines and eating through
their reputation only helps them out.

 

Sorry to say that there aren't hardly any good, inexpensive, and accessible
interfaces out now. The great buy, for quality and accessibility, at the
moment, are the Mackie Onyx mixers. The 820I is $400, and certainly isn't
little/portable, though. It would be fine at home, but not for carrying
around with a laptop. Maybe one of the Edirol interfaces would work for dirt
cheap ($100), but be prepared to go through a bit of accessibility
frustration.

 

Bryan

 

From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Paul Leishman
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:45 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: M-audio fast track pro

 

The fasttrack pro works very well with windows XP if you load up the
included drivers. However, with vista is is rubbish. I suspect their new
update drivers are rubbish for windos 7 as well.

--- On Tue, 2/11/10, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] M-audio fast track pro
To: "Dancing dots" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, 2 November, 2010, 14:31

Hi all i want to get myself a small sound card and i'm looking at the fast
track pro, does anyone have one or does anyone have a opinion on it, i don't
want to buy something that's not going to work for me.

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