I understand, if that's the case. It's just upsetting when we need to spend more than the main stream. At this point, I don't know who to blame. Douk ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [MIDI-MAG] Dancing Dots Releases CakeTalking for Cakewalk SONAR 3: New Possibilities for Independent Audio Production by the Blind > Hi Douk, > > First, I suggest you contact Dancing Dots as regards access > to the download area. They will provide you with a link. > > On the matter of the JAWS version, please don't blame > Dancing Dots, or even Freedom Scientific. There are aspects > of Sonar 3 which simply cannot be handled with anything > other than JAWS 5.1. For starters, Cakewalk/Sonar changed > some icons which earlier versions of JAWs simply cannot see > no matter how good anyone is at scripting JAWS. Without > access to these new fangled icons you would be completely > lost. > > So if anyone is to blame, it's the Sonar guys. > > I believe this is called "progress". (Smile) > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fattah > Douk > Sent: 15 November 2004 18:42 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [MIDI-MAG] Dancing Dots Releases > CakeTalking for Cakewalk SONAR 3: New Possibilities for > Independent Audio Production by the Blind > > Hi Guys: > I tried to download CT for Sonar 3, but it only gave me > purchase options, and sometimes I get messages from internet > explorer that the server cannot be found. Is there any > direct way to download the program? > In the mean time, I'd like to express that I am unhappy > since I purchased the package on the understanding that I > would get the upgrade to CT for sonar 3 free. But now, I > learn that the upgrade is contingent on having Jaws 5.1. I > only have Jaws 4.51. Is this a marketing thingy for Jaws or > what? Why can't we still use Jaws 4.51 with CT for sonar 3? > Thank you. > Douk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <MIDI-MAG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:44 PM > Subject: [MIDI-MAG] Dancing Dots Releases CakeTalking for > Cakewalk SONAR 3: > New Possibilities for Independent Audio Production by the > Blind > > > > Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, USA > > October 20, 2004 > > > > Dancing Dots Releases CakeTalking for Cakewalk SONAR 3: > > New Possibilities for Independent Audio Production by the > Blind > > > > Today Dancing Dots announces the official release of the > latest=20 > > version of their access solution for SONAR from Cakewalk > Music=20 > > Software which they call CakeTalking. > > SONAR converts your PC into a multi-track, audio > production studio. > > CakeTalking has two components: a set of scripts that > customizes how=20 > > the JAWS for Windows screen reader software responds to > SONAR's highly > graphical > > environment and a set of detailed tutorial documents > containing=20 > > hundreds > of > > pages of tutorial instruction tailored to the needs of the > blind user. > > > > Bill McCann, founder and president of Dancing Dots, said: > "SONAR 3 and=20 > > JAWS 5 were released virtually simultaneously in late > 2003. Since that > time > > we at Dancing Dots have been working with the > manufacturers of these=20 > > two products to upgrade our CakeTalking for SONAR scripts > to work > with > > them. We thank the people at Cakewalk Music Software and > Freedom > Scientific > > for making the necessary and significant revisions to > their own=20 > > products > to > > make the release of CakeTalking 3.5 for SONAR 3 a reality. > Most of=20 > > all, we appreciate the tireless efforts of CakeTalking's > creator,=20 > > David Pinto, for making it happen." > > > > For further information go to > > www.Dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm. For > details of > Dancing > > Dots' upgrade policy for CakeTalking and SONAR, please > visit=20 > > www.DancingDots.com/ctsonarup.htm. > > > > Since 1992, Dancing Dots Braille Music Technology has been > a pioneer=20 > > in software development and innovation for the blind > musician. In 1997 > Dancing > > Dots released its first product, the GOODFEEL Braille > Music Translator. > > Meantime, the company has expanded its focus to enabling > blind=20 > > musicians > to > > independently record, edit and print out their musical > ideas by means=20 > > of specially adapted mainstream software like SONAR and > Sibelius. The=20 > > company is an authorized distributor for a wide range of > assistive=20 > > technology and music products with blind and sighted > customers=20 > > throughout the U.S. and 26 other countries. 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