Yes, the keyboard commands are some what different and also similar. For example: To read the title bar in Jaws is insert T- To read the title bar in wineyes is control shift T. In Jaws, the say all command is insert2 on the numeric keypad. In wineyes it's control shift r. Jaws reads dialog questions first proceeded by the default button where wineyes reads the default button first followed by the actual question. It's interesting to note that for browsing the web, GW Micro has incorporated a lot of freedom scientific's commands for headings quick keys in MS Word, ETC. So there you have it. ----- Original Message ----- From: neville To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing Are the keyboard commands in Window Eyes much different from Jaws? How Does it work? What are the differences and what are the similarities? ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew McLaren To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing Hi. I use window-eyes in conjunction with jaws and i must say that the technical support for windoweyes is fantastic. I have a response within 24 hours and they are always keen to help out as much as they can. They actually take your criticisms and suggestions into account and add features in future versions. The so-called small number of blind users of sonar have already got gw micro to incorporate basic support for sonar. It is limited but it says something for the company, that they are willing to try. If more people request better support for sonar through gw micro i am sure they will incorporate it into future versions. Being a smaller company they rely on their customer's feedback and this is how freedom scientific should be and they are unfortunately not. Ok I've had my rant, its late and i felt like speaking up lol matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean A. Cummins To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: MIDI-Mag Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing Dear Omar, I have found that JAWS 6.20.65 has proven to be the most reliable version of JAWS that can be used with Sonar scripts and Sonar. I have spoken with several people at Freedom Scientific over the last 6 months, including Eric Damory, and the basic attitude is that the number of people using JAWS for music is so small, that it doesn't warrant their full attention. Just imagine if the auto industry took this posture with regard to their vehicles loosing wheels! Would they say something like, "The number of customers using our vehicles for ambulances is so small, that it doesn't really matter!"? Addressing the wheels falling off vehicles obviously benefits everyone that uses the vehicle! Taking care of all customers is just plane smart business sense. Not only will it keep your current clients happy, but will inevitably sustained good customer relation in all that a company may sell or do. This I know for sure, that once there is an alternative screen reading package to JAWS, there will be such a mass exodus from JAWS that it will make Freedom Scientifics' heads spin! I personally know of developers that are working diligently to one day produce a compatible product for JAWS for a fraction of the current price, if not completely free! The prevailing attitude of many is still "OH-YEAH! They'll never catch up to us! That's what the turtle said to the hare, before he went to sleep overly confident in his performance as well!, Remember, that was just before loosing the race! Take Care, Sean A. Cummins ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] JAWS Crashing Hello: I'm sometimes encountering JAWS crashing on my computer in the middle of random tasks and applications. In fact, the entire soundcard that JAWS is running on seems to crash. Does anybody have any suggestions? I have a pentium 3.2 gig processor, and 2 gigs of ram. Thanks. Omar Binno -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006