[ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
- From: russell Bourgoin <rusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:59:56 -0400
Yeah, butthe difference is that all of the other vendors blame the
screen reader, whereas fs blames everybody else, so I guess they are
all the same.
Rusty
> At 11:28 PM 10/9/2006, Sandy Licht spake thusly:-
My comment about FS's tech support is really true about most
software companies. Sometimes you find technicians who absolutely
know what they are doing, and then again, you find some who make you
wonder if he/she really knows what a computer is.
At 04:49 PM 10/9/2006, Russell Bourgoin wrote:
Hi,
Me neither.
Rusty
> At 03:19 PM 10/9/2006, David P Shortland spake thusly:-
No... I do not agree!!
At 11:14 PM 9/10/2006, you wrote:
Well, there is no," no," speech software," that could even Top
Jaws, be honest, there's just nothing out there yet. "hands down dood".
Hey would everyone on the List Agree????
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From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
maybe you should try it b4 u judge it.
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From: <mailto:maestro_22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>James Murphy
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
oh," who knew
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From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
yeh they did, verssion 5.5 came out earlier this year.
check out their website
and yes it does support sonar but not to the standard of jaws yet
do some research
<http://www.gwmicro.com>www.gwmicro.com
matt
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From: <mailto:maestro_22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>James Murphy
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:58 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Window Eyes, Oh Please they haven't upgraded there software in
years. Whats up with that. Window doesn't work with cakeTalk Right?
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From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Hi.
I use window-eyes in conjunction with jaws and i must say that
the technical support for windoweyes is fantastic. I have a
response within 24 hours and they are always keen to help out as
much as they can. They actually take your criticisms and
suggestions into account and add features in future versions. The
so-called small number of blind users of sonar have already got
gw micro to incorporate basic support for sonar. It is limited
but it says something for the company, that they are willing to
try. If more people request better support for sonar through gw
micro i am sure they will incorporate it into future versions.
Being a smaller company they rely on their customer's feedback
and this is how freedom scientific should be and they are unfortunately not.
Ok I've had my rant, its late and i felt like speaking up lol
matt
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From: <mailto:Sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sean A. Cummins
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: <mailto:midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx>MIDI-Mag
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Dear Omar,
I have found that JAWS 6.20.65 has proven to be the most reliable
version of JAWS that can be used with Sonar scripts and Sonar.
I have spoken with several people at Freedom Scientific over the
last 6 months, including Eric Damory, and the basic attitude is
that the number of people using JAWS for music is so small, that
it doesn't warrant their full attention.
Just imagine if the auto industry took this posture with regard
to their vehicles loosing wheels! Would they say something like,
"The number of customers using our vehicles for ambulances is so
small, that it doesn't really matter!"? Addressing the wheels
falling off vehicles obviously benefits everyone that uses the
vehicle! Taking care of all customers is just plane smart
business sense. Not only will it keep your current clients
happy, but will inevitably sustained good customer relation in
all that a company may sell or do.
This I know for sure, that once there is an alternative screen
reading package to JAWS, there will be such a mass exodus from
JAWS that it will make Freedom Scientifics' heads spin!
I personally know of developers that are working diligently to
one day produce a compatible product for JAWS for a fraction of
the current price, if not completely free! The prevailing
attitude of many is still "OH-YEAH! They'll never catch up to
us! That's what the turtle said to the hare, before he went to
sleep overly confident in his performance as well!, Remember,
that was just before loosing the race!
Take Care,
Sean A. Cummins
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From: <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>Omar Binno
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:45 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] JAWS Crashing
Hello:
I'm sometimes encountering JAWS crashing on my computer in the
middle of random tasks and applications. In fact, the entire
soundcard that JAWS is running on seems to crash. Does anybody
have any suggestions? I have a pentium 3.2 gig processor, and 2 gigs of ram.
Thanks.
Omar Binno
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At 04:49 PM 10/9/2006, Russell Bourgoin wrote:
Hi,
Me neither.
Rusty > At 03:19 PM 10/9/2006, David P Shortland spake thusly:-No... I do not agree!!
At 11:14 PM 9/10/2006, you wrote:
Well, there is no," no," speech software," that could even Top Jaws, be honest, there's just nothing out there yet. "hands down dood".
Hey would everyone on the List Agree????
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From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
maybe you should try it b4 u judge it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:maestro_22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>James Murphy To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:05 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
oh," who knew ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
yeh they did, verssion 5.5 came out earlier this year. check out their website and yes it does support sonar but not to the standard of jaws yet do some research <http://www.gwmicro.com>www.gwmicro.com matt ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:maestro_22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>James Murphy To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Window Eyes, Oh Please they haven't upgraded there software in years. Whats up with that. Window doesn't work with cakeTalk Right?
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From: <mailto:mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx>Matthew McLaren
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Hi.
I use window-eyes in conjunction with jaws and i must say that the technical support for windoweyes is fantastic. I have a response within 24 hours and they are always keen to help out as much as they can. They actually take your criticisms and suggestions into account and add features in future versions. The so-called small number of blind users of sonar have already got gw micro to incorporate basic support for sonar. It is limited but it says something for the company, that they are willing to try. If more people request better support for sonar through gw micro i am sure they will incorporate it into future versions.
Being a smaller company they rely on their customer's feedback and this is how freedom scientific should be and they are unfortunately not.
Ok I've had my rant, its late and i felt like speaking up lol
matt
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Cc: <mailto:midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx>MIDI-Mag
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: JAWS Crashing
Dear Omar,
I have found that JAWS 6.20.65 has proven to be the most reliable version of JAWS that can be used with Sonar scripts and Sonar.
I have spoken with several people at Freedom Scientific over the last 6 months, including Eric Damory, and the basic attitude is that the number of people using JAWS for music is so small, that it doesn't warrant their full attention.
Just imagine if the auto industry took this posture with regard to their vehicles loosing wheels! Would they say something like, "The number of customers using our vehicles for ambulances is so small, that it doesn't really matter!"? Addressing the wheels falling off vehicles obviously benefits everyone that uses the vehicle! Taking care of all customers is just plane smart business sense. Not only will it keep your current clients happy, but will inevitably sustained good customer relation in all that a company may sell or do.
This I know for sure, that once there is an alternative screen reading package to JAWS, there will be such a mass exodus from JAWS that it will make Freedom Scientifics' heads spin!
I personally know of developers that are working diligently to one day produce a compatible product for JAWS for a fraction of the current price, if not completely free! The prevailing attitude of many is still "OH-YEAH! They'll never catch up to us! That's what the turtle said to the hare, before he went to sleep overly confident in his performance as well!, Remember, that was just before loosing the race!
Take Care,
Sean A. Cummins
----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>Omar Binno To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] JAWS Crashing
Hello:
I'm sometimes encountering JAWS crashing on my computer in the middle of random tasks and applications. In fact, the entire soundcard that JAWS is running on seems to crash. Does anybody have any suggestions? I have a pentium 3.2 gig processor, and 2 gigs of ram.
Thanks.
Omar Binno
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