[ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments

MessageOh, it's really easy to learn. It's not programming language at all.
Checkout some of the podcasts and read the manual. You won't regret the time 
you invested. It's totally worth it.

  Chi
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  From: Kevin Gibbs 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:58 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


  I've thought about it.  I'll have to learn how that's done.  I've got enough 
sight if I could learn the language of it.  
  K.
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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Chi Kim
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


    Have you thought about using hsc? This is when the HSC kicks in. You can 
have a sited person to put the mouse on each tab and make a hotspot with a 
keyboard shortcut attached. Then later you can easily activate those tab 
without using the mouse.

    Chi
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kevin Gibbs 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:15 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


      Okay, what are the JAWS built in mouse keystrokes.  
      K.
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[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir
        Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:57 PM
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


        Kevin wrote: Here is a problem.  JAWS can read the patches.  However, 
when up arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the top line 
of the patch or
        matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs are 
chosen.  So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the matrix 
assign
        page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to the 
performance or controller pages.  this requires a hand guided mouse action so 
far. 

        Phil replied: I came across the same problem when creating .HSC support 
in Session Drummmer2 and the Sonitus FX Multiband Compressor.  The problem was 
easily gotten around by using the Jaws built-in mouse keystrokes and if 
necessary, moving 1 or 2 pixels at a time to locate the various buttons, rather 
than using an up or down arrow key.

        Regards, Phil Muir
        P J Muir Productions
        Music And Audio Production
        URL:
        www.philmuir.com/
        Band website:
        www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
        Band my Space Site:
        www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Kevin Gibbs 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:07 PM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


          Omar,
              Here is a problem.  JAWS can read the patches.  However, when up 
arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the top line of the 
patch or matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs are 
chosen.  So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the matrix 
assign page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to the 
performance or controller pages.  this requires a hand guided mouse action so 
far.  I don't know why.  I'll copy one of the people at Vienna on this and see 
what if anything he says.  
              The Vienna folks have been very helpful.  
          Best,
          Kevin  
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            From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
            Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:32 PM
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


            Hi Kevin,

            Is jaws able to read the banks and patches for the voices?

            Omar Binno

            www.omarbinno.com
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Kevin Gibbs 
              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:28 PM
              Subject: [ddots-l] Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


              Dear All, 
                      A few of you have asked about the accessibility of Vienna 
Instruments from time to time.  Unfortunately, I'm not as accomplished a JAWS 
user as many of you.  Here is one of those cases where a little vision is a 
dangerous thing.  However, I'm here to report, if I haven't already done so, 
that not only can JAWS read the lists in the right hand pane of the matrix 
window, essential for selecting matrices which combine instrument 
articulations, the user can then lock the mouse and drag a selected matrix to 
the left pane and load it into a matrix slot.  I never knew that you could lock 
and drag before.  

                      Unfortunately, JAWS has no way of telling you where you 
are when you drag.  Perhaps an HSC set might be devised by someone who has V I. 
 

                      I haven't bothered to look at the other tabs in the 
interface to say what can and can't be done with any of them.  However, the 
fact that the screen isn't entirely bitmapped and can be read by JAWS is a plus 
in itself.  

                      As always, combining this with track templates and a 
little sighted assistance at the beginning will make one of the world's finest 
virtual instruments more accessible than I had originally thought.  

              K. 

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