Okay, what are the JAWS built in mouse keystrokes. K. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:57 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments Kevin wrote: Here is a problem. JAWS can read the patches. However, when up arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the top line of the patch or matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs are chosen. So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the matrix assign page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to the performance or controller pages. this requires a hand guided mouse action so far. Phil replied: I came across the same problem when creating .HSC support in Session Drummmer2 and the Sonitus FX Multiband Compressor. The problem was easily gotten around by using the Jaws built-in mouse keystrokes and if necessary, moving 1 or 2 pixels at a time to locate the various buttons, rather than using an up or down arrow key. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: www.philmuir.com/ Band website: www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/ Band my Space Site: www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Gibbs <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments Omar, Here is a problem. JAWS can read the patches. However, when up arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the top line of the patch or matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs are chosen. So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the matrix assign page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to the performance or controller pages. this requires a hand guided mouse action so far. I don't know why. I'll copy one of the people at Vienna on this and see what if anything he says. The Vienna folks have been very helpful. Best, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:32 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments Hi Kevin, Is jaws able to read the banks and patches for the voices? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> Gibbs To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments Dear All, A few of you have asked about the accessibility of Vienna Instruments from time to time. Unfortunately, I'm not as accomplished a JAWS user as many of you. Here is one of those cases where a little vision is a dangerous thing. However, I'm here to report, if I haven't already done so, that not only can JAWS read the lists in the right hand pane of the matrix window, essential for selecting matrices which combine instrument articulations, the user can then lock the mouse and drag a selected matrix to the left pane and load it into a matrix slot. I never knew that you could lock and drag before. Unfortunately, JAWS has no way of telling you where you are when you drag. Perhaps an HSC set might be devised by someone who has V I. I haven't bothered to look at the other tabs in the interface to say what can and can't be done with any of them. However, the fact that the screen isn't entirely bitmapped and can be read by JAWS is a plus in itself. As always, combining this with track templates and a little sighted assistance at the beginning will make one of the world's finest virtual instruments more accessible than I had originally thought. K.