[ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna Instruments

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Carlson 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


  Kevin,

  1. Use Insert-J to open the JAWS Window.
  2. Then press H for help and arrow down to keyboard commands
  3. Press Enter to open the JAWS Help dialog.
  4. Press F6 to switch to the information pane, and you will be able to use it 
like a web page to navigate through all the JAWS keystrokes.
  5. Press the link: JAWS Keystrokes 
  6. Then press the link: JAWS Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation 

  You'll find a table of keystrokes, and the four bottom items relate to mouse 
movements. Use these when in the JAWS cursor mode to move by pixels around the 
screen.

  Dave


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kevin Gibbs 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:18 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


    Where can I find podcasts?
    K.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Chi Kim
      Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:18 PM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


      Oh, it's really easy to learn. It's not programming language at all.
      Checkout some of the podcasts and read the manual. You won't regret the 
time you invested. It's totally worth it.

        Chi
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Kevin Gibbs 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:58 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in Vienna 
Instruments


        I've thought about it.  I'll have to learn how that's done.  I've got 
enough sight if I could learn the language of it.  
        K.
          -----Original Message-----
          From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chi Kim
          Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 PM
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


          Have you thought about using hsc? This is when the HSC kicks in. You 
can have a sited person to put the mouse on each tab and make a hotspot with a 
keyboard shortcut attached. Then later you can easily activate those tab 
without using the mouse.

          Chi
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Kevin Gibbs 
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:15 PM
            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


            Okay, what are the JAWS built in mouse keystrokes.  
            K.
              -----Original Message-----
              From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir
              Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:57 PM
              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


              Kevin wrote: Here is a problem.  JAWS can read the patches.  
However, when up arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the 
top line of the patch or
              matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs 
are chosen.  So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the 
matrix assign
              page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to 
the performance or controller pages.  this requires a hand guided mouse action 
so far. 

              Phil replied: I came across the same problem when creating .HSC 
support in Session Drummmer2 and the Sonitus FX Multiband Compressor.  The 
problem was easily gotten around by using the Jaws built-in mouse keystrokes 
and if necessary, moving 1 or 2 pixels at a time to locate the various buttons, 
rather than using an up or down arrow key.

              Regards, Phil Muir
              P J Muir Productions
              Music And Audio Production
              URL:
              www.philmuir.com/
              Band website:
              www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
              Band my Space Site:
              www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Kevin Gibbs 
                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:07 PM
                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


                Omar,
                    Here is a problem.  JAWS can read the patches.  However, 
when up arrowing with the JAWS cursor, the JAWS cursor skips from the top line 
of the patch or matrix column to a point above the line where the various tabs 
are chosen.  So, there is no way for a blind person to change tabs from the 
matrix assign page to the patch assign page, or from the patch assign page to 
the performance or controller pages.  this requires a hand guided mouse action 
so far.  I don't know why.  I'll copy one of the people at Vienna on this and 
see what if anything he says.  
                    The Vienna folks have been very helpful.  
                Best,
                Kevin  
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
                  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:32 PM
                  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Important update for those interested 
in Vienna Instruments


                  Hi Kevin,

                  Is jaws able to read the banks and patches for the voices?

                  Omar Binno

                  www.omarbinno.com
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Kevin Gibbs 
                    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:28 PM
                    Subject: [ddots-l] Important update for those interested in 
Vienna Instruments


                    Dear All, 
                            A few of you have asked about the accessibility of 
Vienna Instruments from time to time.  Unfortunately, I'm not as accomplished a 
JAWS user as many of you.  Here is one of those cases where a little vision is 
a dangerous thing.  However, I'm here to report, if I haven't already done so, 
that not only can JAWS read the lists in the right hand pane of the matrix 
window, essential for selecting matrices which combine instrument 
articulations, the user can then lock the mouse and drag a selected matrix to 
the left pane and load it into a matrix slot.  I never knew that you could lock 
and drag before.  

                            Unfortunately, JAWS has no way of telling you where 
you are when you drag.  Perhaps an HSC set might be devised by someone who has 
V I.  

                            I haven't bothered to look at the other tabs in the 
interface to say what can and can't be done with any of them.  However, the 
fact that the screen isn't entirely bitmapped and can be read by JAWS is a plus 
in itself.  

                            As always, combining this with track templates and 
a little sighted assistance at the beginning will make one of the world's 
finest virtual instruments more accessible than I had originally thought.  

                    K. 

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