[ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?

  • From: Christopher Bartlett <bridgeweaver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:31:25 -0700

It's worth noting that there is a project, (currently dormant) to put together a plan to attack the problem of accessibility in a more systematic way that was suggested and inspired by the moderator of the Midi-mag list. There was a period of spirited discussion a few months back, followed by silence. I'd like to see this picked up. 


At 04:35 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote:
OK, I've had a quick look at the interface and it's disgusting. Everything was bit maps, including the menus so everything would have to be remote controlled by Jaws, and the only verification would be the end result. In other words, you'd have to play it to see if you'd loaded the right instrument.
This would absolutely be a scripting job, and a big one for such a small player. Unless someone fancies writing an app to do on-screen OCR. (lol) 

Sorry,

Dan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?


Hi,

You'd be OK until you encountered some dynamic data on the screen, at which
point you'd have no way of figuring out what's there.  Creating a
representation of the menu bar, etc. shouldn't be a problem, though.


Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 28 September 2007 07:21
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?

Actually, I reckon you would.  If you used HSC to grab the menus then,
supplemented that with a bit of JFW script then, it should probably work.
Any thoughts Tim?

Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
Band website:
www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:29 AM
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It wouldn't even work with HSC.  Even the drop down menus are completely bit
mapped and invisible to jaws.  You would have no way of knowing what you are
loading and where it is going.
Gord
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?



Hmm, have you tried sorting out access to this with HSC?

Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
Band website:
www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:04 AM
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GPO uses the NI Kontakt interface and is therefore not accessible. I am
working with experts on a solution involving NI Kore, but nothing yet.

This

solution will also apply to EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Silver, and Garriton
Jazz and Big Band ... if it works!

Matt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?



Not sure.  I doubt that the Personal Orchestra is accessible.

Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
Band website:
www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
Band my Space Site:
www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramy Moustafa" <flutelover@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?


so well this garritan well be accessible with out the the dimension pro?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?



garritan Personal orchestra is a separate softsynthe.  A version of that

is called garritan

pocket orchestra and ships as part of Dimension Pro. Also, you get a

lite version of it in

Dimension LE which, ships with Sonar 7.





Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
Band website:
www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
Band my Space Site:
www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramy Moustafa" <flutelover@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal

Orchestra?



, can i ask:
what is the  difference, between, dimension pro and garritan orchestra?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How accessible is the Garritan Personal

Orchestra?




If your referring to the version that ships as part of Dimension Pro

then, it's totally

accessible for us.  You can use it with CT for Sonar 6.


Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
Band website:
www.steelstringmusic.co.uk/
Band my Space Site:
www.myspace.com/steelstringmusic
----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Simpson" <simp749@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:37 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] How accessible is the Garritan Personal Orchestra?


Hello,

I've asked about realistic orchestral sounds here before.  It seems the

best

I can find, at the moment, are the Garritan Personal Orchestra.  How
accessible is this for us?  I remember Gordon said I'd have to get

sighted

help.  How much sighted help would I need and how difficult would it be

for

a sighted person?  In other words, would I need someone fairly computer
litterate?

Thanks!  Anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Laurie


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