[ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please

  • From: "Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:48:06 -0600

You should've been in the 60's when I was playing, you could've grabbed a 
guitarist and done a Cream or Grand Funk trio knock-off, or even the Who, with 
a dedicated vocalist whom you could depend to double on other instruments like 
Roger Daltry...  (grin)  Those were the days when jamming was an art, and not 
just sloppy blues jams, or dare I criticize them--as I'm a fairly dedicated 
Dead Head, but OK I'll say it, the sometimes sloppy self-indulgent jams of some 
periods of the Dead...  (grin)

Nick



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Jeffrey 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:36 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 


  Nick,

  For better or worse, I tend to often be a "busy" player, I tried to keep 
things cool on this tune, but the drums/groove called my number once again, 
just can't help it *smile*.

  The drummer wrote the tune, and he and I tracked back and fourth to each 
other for this tune, so I guess it's a drummer/bass player project *smile*.

  On a side note, the two of us have a long history playing together, in the 
late 80's we were well known throughout Central California for our over-the-top 
drum/bass solos, the only problem was  we were playing in one of those late 
80's style Pop/Rock/Hair bands... a little out of place for that kind of 
playingLOL. 

  If you like, you or anyone else can check out more music that this drummer 
and I wrote/played on together (way  laid backed fun project) at:

  http://www.eastofwest.net


  Well, I guess all of that was a little off topic for this list,thanks again 
for your observations regarding that mix, I do hear exactly what you were 
saying.

  Steve



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nick Dotson 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:32 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 



    I don't mind the bass volume so much, I figured it was a bass dominated 
band!  (grin)

    Nick


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steven Jeffrey 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:13 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 


      Yeh, I have a couple of those in the house right now making plenty of 
noise, they are coming in loud and clear. 

      I just gave the tune another listen and I completely hear the snare 
volume/bass volume thing, will back off on both of those for the next mix... 
can't believe I didn't catch them earlier.

      Thanks,

      Steve 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Nick Dotson 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:46 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 



        Those of us in the rhythm section are somewhat analogous to children, 
most often best felt rather than heard.  (grin)

        Nick


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Steven Jeffrey 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:36 PM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 


          Thanks Darran, Omar, and Nick for your suggestions. All of these 
sound completely reasonable to me, and I'll run them past the person I'm mixing 
the tune with.

          Funny how things sometimes work, the two instruments most being 
commented about are the instruments played by the two guys mixing the tune... 
he's a drummer, and I'm a bass player, he wanted the bass further up in the 
mix, and I wanted his snare further up too... I think both of us were purposely 
not trying to spotlight our own instruments, but we could possibly of somewhat 
cross-spotlighted each others.

          Thanks again for the feedback.

          Steve
          -
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Nick Dotson 
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:05 PM
            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 


            Basically I loved it, although I've never been one that's too keen 
on sweaty intense anthemic American Rock'n Roll like Bob Seiger or Bruce 
Springsteen.  However, as a drummer, were it my own set, I'd ask that the snare 
be brought down a smidge or two to put it in balance with the rest of the set.  
It has a pitch, miking and probable compression that brings in out front and 
center in your face, equal to or in front of the lead singer's voice, and I 
kept finding my attention drifting to that artifact of the piece.  I really got 
off on the bass playing and the choral part, as well as the guitar solo.  But 
it's a very "Radio Friendly" without being squished to death with over 
compression mix--a true rarity these days and i liked the panning of the 
cymbals, and the spaces for all of the instruments--the snare though.  (grin)

            Nick



              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Steven Jeffrey 
              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:17 PM
              Subject: [ddots-l] Feedback On First Mix Needed, Please 


              Hello,

              I am interested in getting some feedback (possitive, or negative) 
on a mix I've been working on with a friend. This is the first mix we've done 
together, and we're both at the point with this mix where we arn't sure what 
else needs to be done (if anything.) 

              I recorded the bass part for the tune using Sonar/CakeTalking in 
my homestudio, so hopefully this type of request isn't to far off topic for 
this list.

              Any suggestions/observations would be very much appreciated.

              Here's the link to the tune.

              "Hold On"

              Thanks,

              Steve

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