[ddots-l] Re: Clips Properties dialog

to tell you the truth i try to ignore clips. when editing i use the from and thru to cut copy and paste. when i want to edit in sound forge i split the starting point not of the clip but the place i want to edit, then split the ending part , then select a small part in the middle of this fragment and select edit bounce to clips to isolate the clip then select sound forge from the tools menu. and it is sent to sound forge for editing then after saving it and alt tab back to sonar and a dialog for loading the edited audio appears.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:50 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Clips Properties dialog



Hey Luis,
While we're on the subject of clip boundaries, is there a simple way to set the From and Thru times to the start and end of a clip? Do I need to calculate the clip end by adding the length to the start, or is there another way to set the thru time.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Clips Properties dialog



right.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:03 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Clips Properties dialog
So, its like saying, "the clips left edge is bar1 beat1 tick0 relative to the clip start position, (bar 23, beat1, tick1 in this case) and extends for 1 bar, 0 ticks(which it calls bar2, beat1, tick0). Or, in other words, its 1 bar(4 full beats) long.
So, if the clip were 5 beats, 50 ticks long, it would read 2.2.50(bar2, beat2, tick50)? Am I getting this right Luis? 

Hope I'm not making it sound more complicated than it actually is.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:45 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Clips Properties dialog



2.1 would be 1  measure because it starts at 1.1 and ends at 2.1
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Clips Properties dialog
I'm trying to learn how to manipulate clips for detailed audio editting, and one thing I would like to clear up is the way in which sonar reports the length of a clip in the clips properties dialog.
When I split a clip, for instance, between measures 23.1.1 and 24.1.1 (mbt), then open the clips dialog for the selected clip, sonar reports the length as 2.1.000The clip is one measure in length, but sonar has an odd way of saying that.
It identifies the start of the clip as mbt 23.1.1--which is right, but I don't get this length field. This same odd length representation also shows up in the paiste dialog. Can anyone explain it for me? 
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