Didn't BPL move to FreeLists? I haven't received anything for a while either. Go out to the site and it's completely changed and looks like it's one of those search sites. I was looking for some of the older downloads a while back. Bryan, send me the info off list for that list. Thanks Vince Mistretta Cellular - 561-234-7631 Skype - vin5451 (email me to request Skype conversation) -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:24 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? Something is wrong with your BlindProgramming subscription. Is very active. I suggested the money as a way to persuade an expert that knows how to do this, but doesn't particularly care about music hardware and software. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:00 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? I can test by making the callback global (i.e. outside the class structure), but this vastly limits the ease with which the final program can be made flexible. For example, using a class-based architecture it'll be a lot easier to cope with users who just have a BCF2000 or an MCU, those who have multiple units and those who have a mix like an MCU, an extender and a C4. I've got the details for the blindprogramming list, but I thought it had died - I think I'm still a member but I haven't seen any traffic for ages. I'm not overly concerned about the money side of things (though donations would be nice once the thing's up and running to some degree - not before). Any and all contacts welcome on this one. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Mobile: 07989 486976 Web: http://www.raisedbar.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atherstone-United-Kingdom/Raised-Bar-Ltd/12023 4896800 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: 05 January 2010 22:24 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? How are you testing without the callback, or do you need this resolved to begin work on providing speech output for the events that you receive? Do you know about the blindprogramming list? Someone might be able to help you figure it out there. If not out of the goodness of their hearts, then I'm sure that we can take up a donation to act as an incentive for them. We should figure out some way of moving forward with this, though. Let me know if you need the blindprogramming list info to find a coder to assist. If we need money, then ddots or MIDI-mag people can probably come up with some. I'm good at persuading people, so I'll try to appeal to them on our behalf, if that would help. I'll certainly donate cash. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:38 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? Bryan, The problem happens when you try and encapsulate a callback routine into a c++ class as the this pointer is undefined at compile time with respect c++ to the win32 SDK. This issue happens because win32 was written in straight C. There are a number of possible ways around the issue - the best is probably to use a pseudo this pointer declared as a structure, as this method is thread-safe, which will be a requirement for my code. I've found a good article at http://www.ddj.com/cpp/184403375 which describes the issue and possible remedies. I'm sure I could crack this myself, but it'll be faster to get somebody else to do it who has more experience. An additional problem is that I can't just release a copy of the code without an NDA being in place, as it contains a definition of the Mackie protocol which I had to sign an NDA to get, though I can distribute it to any nominated contractor who also signs a copy of the agreement. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Mobile: 07989 486976 Web: http://www.raisedbar.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atherstone-United-Kingdom/Raised-Bar-Ltd/12023 4896800 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: 05 January 2010 18:36 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? Tim, what is the issue? I might not be able to solve it personally, but I can probably find you an answer. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:53 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: BCF2000 Control Surface? Chris, They break easily, but the next option for better quality would be a Mackie Control Universal and you may have to remortgage to afford one. I'm still working on my Mackie Display Reader project, but that should work with any Mackie-compliant surface - the project is somewhat hung at the moment due to an incompatibility between c++ code and the Win32 SDK, but I'm trying to find a programmer with enough experience to overcome the issue and I'll pay him to do it quick rather than keep the project stalled. Best wishes. 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