You just want to make sure they are enabled. GO to the view menu (alt v) and up arrow a couple of times to the "toolbars option. Press enter. You should be able to tab through a list of all the available toolbars and their checked/unchecked state should be spoken by jaws. Of course, reinstalling cake talking will set it all up for you the way it is supposed to be. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:37 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Are the Toolbars Accessible? Hi, it's Annabelle. I know someone was talking about toolbars like the "Loop" toolbar in Sonar. I'm wondering, are these accessible with Caketalking? If so, how would I get to them? If they're not accessible, would I have to have help from someone who can see?