[ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

Hi,

My understanding is that SampleTank has built-in Mackie support, so it'd be
very interesting to see what you get.  You can grab the free version of the
Reader at http://www.raisedbar.net if you'd like to experiment and I can be
reached via Skype at timburg2005 if you need a hand getting it going.  The
paid-for version that I'm working on will allow you to rename all of the
physical buttons, etc. to tailor the Reader's output to suit the application
that you're working with.

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Charles Marston
Sent: 17 August 2010 00:20
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

Tim:
I have a ProjectMix IO and I also have SampleTank.  So, you think that using

the Mackie display reader you developed, I could control some of the 
features of SampleTank?  I would be very interested in trying that out.



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From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:31 PM
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

> I'd be very interested to know if anybody has both SampleTank and a
> Mackie-compliant control surface, as I believe that we might be able to 
> get
> more use out of this application using the Mackie Display Reader.
>
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
> Raised Bar Ltd
> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>
> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
>
> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
> Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: 16 August 2010 18:02
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>
> Sampletank isn't accessible.
>
> I don't know of any softsynths that can sound like that at all. Notice 
> that
> it isn't just that he plays notes, but he controls the swells. That is
> something that most synths just don't allow you to do at all with wind
> instruments.
>
> The only way that I know that I could produce a sound like that is to use
> hardware, like the Motif with a wind controller, or, better yet, the VL-1
> with a wind controller. Yamaha's brass is alright for a synth. However, 
> the
> Motif directly supports a wind controller, and the patches are programmed 
> to
> work with it.
>
> If you use nearly any keyboard workstation, the wind controller will 
> simply
> control volume and a filter to dull the sound. The VL-1 will actually add
> harmonics and growl as you blow harder.
>
> There is a physical modeling plug for the computer from Arturia called 
> Brass
> that is supposed to do what the VL-1 does in software. I've never used it,
> though, so have no idea regarding the accessibility.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
> Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:44 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>
> Hi Bryan,
>
> I'm trying to recreate the Horn section sound you'd hear on old Sam cooke,
> Fats Domino, Little Richard records.
> The closest sounding software I've personally found that may be able to
> recreate this sound is.
> http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/demos_trumpet.php
>
> Not sure whether this software would be accessible.
>
> If you could recommend something that has that dirty sounding 1950's sax 
> and
> a trumpet with plenty of bight, that would be Fantastic.
> I don't need loads of articulations as most of the arrangements are
> Combinations of horns.
>
> Steve W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:46 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>
>
> Most of the Akai libraries are mid 90's stuff. There haven't been too many
> new Akai libraries produced in the last 10 years or so, as anyone trying 
> to
> make huge sample libraries needs a PC to do it.
>
> If you're converting Akai libraries, then you're basically trying to bring
> old hardware sampler sounds to your DAW. There are some nice old sounds,
> but, on the whole, they aren't going to sound like the new mega libraries
> that you've heard.
>
> As an aside, I think that one of the worst instruments that synths attempt
> are horns. I've heard some solo versions that are pretty good. The Motif 
> XS
> has extra articulations for trumpet and sax that you can trigger left
> handed, as well as sounding correct if you're playing legato, but you're
> never going to get the real dynamics control out of a keyboard. Yamaha has
> that breath controller device, but, after a certain point, you might as 
> well
>
> go play the real instrument. The VL-1 could do a great job with emulating
> horns, but, as I said above, its just emulating solos.
>
> I don't know. I guess it depends on what sort of sound you want. Are you
> trying to find horn sections for doing unison punches in a pop song? Are 
> you
>
> arranging for a whole section? Yu just trying to play a solo? Maybe we can
> suggest something that can work.
>
> Keyboard also totally sucks at any orchestral solo strings (never enough
> dynamics and glide control), accordion (could be better, but no one ever
> bothers to program it), pedal steel (hardly anything has poly aftertouch
> anymore in order to handle the independent string bends), and, to a large
> extent, clav (synths don't respond fast enough to really do clav or 
> virtual
> analog stuff anymore). Most all of this can't be fixed with gigs and gigs 
> of
>
> samples.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
> Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:48 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>
> Hi Omar,
>
> What's the saxophones and trumpets like on Akai samplers? are they better
> than the ones on dimension Pro?
> got my horns section sounding quite good yet, it's still the weak link in 
> my
>
> songs.
>
> I'd love to be using the samples found below however, don't believe they 
> are
>
> accessible.
>
> Just enter on the link below go to MP3's, press enter on one of them, now
> press cursor key and arrow up or down until you hear jaws say, "No
> information available" press right mouse key and press enter. The MP3 
> should
>
> then play.
> These samples are amazing.
>
> http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/demos_trumpet.php
>
> Steve W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:35 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>
>
> Speaking of Akai, I just picked up an older akai s6000. Akai has
> software on their site which enables users to work with the sampler
> through windows. Software is called the aksys software. I've briefly
> messed around with it with jaws, and it seems okay as far as
> accessibility, although I had to use the jaws cursor for the most
> part. Has anyone else messed with the software? If so, any feedback?
>
> On 8/14/10, Jörgen Hansson <hansson.jogge@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> yes I have converted MKI samples to sfz without no problem, I have a hole
>> library of mellotron sounds which was converted from MKI to sfz.
>> Regards,
>> Jörgen Hansson!
>> Tel +46 703-601296
>> www.jorgenhansson.com
>> skype: djtropical4532
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Justin Kauflin
>>   To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:55 AM
>>   Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>>
>>
>>   Jorgen,
>>       Have you used Extreme Sample Converter to convert .NKI samples to
>> SFZ?
>>  I'm curious if that process isn't buggy.  I've used it to convert a few
>> Sample Tank samples with no issues, and was curious on how well it works
>> with other samples.
>>   Thanks for any info.
>>   Justin
>>
>>   On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Jörgen Hansson wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hi Erik!
>>     Have you heard of the little program called extreme sample converter?
>> it
>> can convert the akai samples you have to SFZ, SF2 and other sample
>> formats.
>>     Regards,
>>     Jörgen Hansson!
>>     Tel +46 703-601296
>>     www.jorgenhansson.com
>>     skype: djtropical4532
>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>       From: Erik Bryndahl
>>       To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>       Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:06 PM
>>       Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>>
>>
>>       Oh sorry, I should have mentioned that I just have the samples on a
>> CD, so my question should have been what kind of softsynth do I need?
>>       Of course also is there any who is accesible?
>>
>>
>>       From: Omar Binno
>>       Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:59 PM
>>       To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>       Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples
>>
>>
>>       are you using an akai unit right now?
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         From: Erik Bryndahl
>>         To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:58 AM
>>         Subject: [ddots-l] Akai samples
>>
>>
>>         Hello,
>>
>>         Is there anyone of you on this list who have been working with
>> Akai
>> samples?
>>
>>         When searching on google I found out that I have to use something
>> like Natives software called Kontakt.
>>
>>         so my question to you all is if anyone of you have any experience
>> from this?
>>
>>         regards,
>>
>>         Erik
>>
>>
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