[ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

  • From: "Charles Marston" <rumbero73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:19:35 -0400

Tim:
I have a ProjectMix IO and I also have SampleTank. So, you think that using the Mackie display reader you developed, I could control some of the features of SampleTank? I would be very interested in trying that out.



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From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:31 PM
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

I'd be very interested to know if anybody has both SampleTank and a
Mackie-compliant control surface, as I believe that we might be able to get
more use out of this application using the Mackie Display Reader.


Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm



-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: 16 August 2010 18:02
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

Sampletank isn't accessible.

I don't know of any softsynths that can sound like that at all. Notice that
it isn't just that he plays notes, but he controls the swells. That is
something that most synths just don't allow you to do at all with wind
instruments.

The only way that I know that I could produce a sound like that is to use
hardware, like the Motif with a wind controller, or, better yet, the VL-1
with a wind controller. Yamaha's brass is alright for a synth. However, the Motif directly supports a wind controller, and the patches are programmed to
work with it.

If you use nearly any keyboard workstation, the wind controller will simply
control volume and a filter to dull the sound. The VL-1 will actually add
harmonics and growl as you blow harder.

There is a physical modeling plug for the computer from Arturia called Brass
that is supposed to do what the VL-1 does in software. I've never used it,
though, so have no idea regarding the accessibility.

Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:44 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

Hi Bryan,

I'm trying to recreate the Horn section sound you'd hear on old Sam cooke,
Fats Domino, Little Richard records.
The closest sounding software I've personally found that may be able to
recreate this sound is.
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/demos_trumpet.php

Not sure whether this software would be accessible.

If you could recommend something that has that dirty sounding 1950's sax and
a trumpet with plenty of bight, that would be Fantastic.
I don't need loads of articulations as most of the arrangements are
Combinations of horns.

Steve W

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:46 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples


Most of the Akai libraries are mid 90's stuff. There haven't been too many
new Akai libraries produced in the last 10 years or so, as anyone trying to
make huge sample libraries needs a PC to do it.

If you're converting Akai libraries, then you're basically trying to bring
old hardware sampler sounds to your DAW. There are some nice old sounds,
but, on the whole, they aren't going to sound like the new mega libraries
that you've heard.

As an aside, I think that one of the worst instruments that synths attempt
are horns. I've heard some solo versions that are pretty good. The Motif XS
has extra articulations for trumpet and sax that you can trigger left
handed, as well as sounding correct if you're playing legato, but you're
never going to get the real dynamics control out of a keyboard. Yamaha has
that breath controller device, but, after a certain point, you might as well

go play the real instrument. The VL-1 could do a great job with emulating
horns, but, as I said above, its just emulating solos.

I don't know. I guess it depends on what sort of sound you want. Are you
trying to find horn sections for doing unison punches in a pop song? Are you

arranging for a whole section? Yu just trying to play a solo? Maybe we can
suggest something that can work.

Keyboard also totally sucks at any orchestral solo strings (never enough
dynamics and glide control), accordion (could be better, but no one ever
bothers to program it), pedal steel (hardly anything has poly aftertouch
anymore in order to handle the independent string bends), and, to a large
extent, clav (synths don't respond fast enough to really do clav or virtual analog stuff anymore). Most all of this can't be fixed with gigs and gigs of

samples.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:48 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples

Hi Omar,

What's the saxophones and trumpets like on Akai samplers? are they better
than the ones on dimension Pro?
got my horns section sounding quite good yet, it's still the weak link in my

songs.

I'd love to be using the samples found below however, don't believe they are

accessible.

Just enter on the link below go to MP3's, press enter on one of them, now
press cursor key and arrow up or down until you hear jaws say, "No
information available" press right mouse key and press enter. The MP3 should

then play.
These samples are amazing.

http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/demos_trumpet.php

Steve W

----- Original Message -----
From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:35 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples


Speaking of Akai, I just picked up an older akai s6000. Akai has
software on their site which enables users to work with the sampler
through windows. Software is called the aksys software. I've briefly
messed around with it with jaws, and it seems okay as far as
accessibility, although I had to use the jaws cursor for the most
part. Has anyone else messed with the software? If so, any feedback?

On 8/14/10, Jörgen Hansson <hansson.jogge@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi!
yes I have converted MKI samples to sfz without no problem, I have a hole
library of mellotron sounds which was converted from MKI to sfz.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Justin Kauflin
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:55 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples


  Jorgen,
      Have you used Extreme Sample Converter to convert .NKI samples to
SFZ?
 I'm curious if that process isn't buggy.  I've used it to convert a few
Sample Tank samples with no issues, and was curious on how well it works
with other samples.
  Thanks for any info.
  Justin

  On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Jörgen Hansson wrote:


    Hi Erik!
    Have you heard of the little program called extreme sample converter?
it
can convert the akai samples you have to SFZ, SF2 and other sample
formats.
    Regards,
    Jörgen Hansson!
    Tel +46 703-601296
    www.jorgenhansson.com
    skype: djtropical4532
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Erik Bryndahl
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:06 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples


      Oh sorry, I should have mentioned that I just have the samples on a
CD, so my question should have been what kind of softsynth do I need?
      Of course also is there any who is accesible?


      From: Omar Binno
      Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:59 PM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Akai samples


      are you using an akai unit right now?
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Erik Bryndahl
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:58 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Akai samples


        Hello,

        Is there anyone of you on this list who have been working with
Akai
samples?

        When searching on google I found out that I have to use something
like Natives software called Kontakt.

        so my question to you all is if anyone of you have any experience
from this?

        regards,

        Erik


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