I'd use a rack-mount PC as it'd be more theft resistant and a bit more protected, and a wireless keyboard... (grin) Nick On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:38 -0000, Tim Burgess wrote: Hi, I'd use a laptop although I suppose there's potential in the rise of accessible PDA devices - haven't seen a MIDI interface for one of those yet, though. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of omar binno Sent: 25 November 2005 11:49 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? Hi Tim: Would this screen reader be dependent on a computer though, or is it a separate device capable of functioning independently? --- Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The ideal way would be to take the output from your screen reader into > your keyboard mixer then use headphones (noise-cancellers would be > ideal) to monitor your speech and foldback outputs). > > Cheers. > > Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of omar binno > Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > Good idea. My question is though, if we need a computer for a device > like this; how can such a device be used on stage for those of us who > use our synths a lot in live performances? > > --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a > keyboard were to be made > > accessible, it should be done through a midi > channel of some sort, > > where the computer would output the speech from > the unit. It would > > be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself > as you wouldn't want > > to have some device talking through a PA system > while doing a gig. > > furthermore if an accessible > > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks > on the list who own > > older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg > Triton wouldn't want > > to give up those units just to purchase an > accessible unit worth > > thousands of dollars. > > Again my opinion is that the accessible part would > have to be > > implimented through a midi channel, and have > output spoken on the > > computer, or braille display itself. > > > > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I > wouldn't trade it for > > anything at this point in time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > > > > > >I certainly think you're on the right page. > Seems > > to me that having > > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI > > standard, to allow their > > >devices to send > > > data in a manner analagous to the way that some > of > > the Kurzweil's do, Dave > > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, > might > > be the direction. The > > > less > > > well-thought out less well articulated the > > request, the sillier will be > > > the results. This is the kind of thing that it > > would be good to have > > > someone get behind > > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M. > > or similar industry-wide > > > conferences. I would think, for instance, > getting > > the CakeWalk folks, > > > perhaps > > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools > folks, > > to present a combined > > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say > > Jerry, the JSonar, and > > > Dancing > > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and > > suggested means by which this > > > could be accomplished, which would then be > > endorsed by the software folks > > > previously mentioned. I would say, for > instance, > > allow the end-user of a > > > device tp press a button, maybe with a > > standardized shape or symbol on it, > > > which > > > would envoke the data transfer process on a > > specific channel, so that > > > commencement of the control process could be > done > > by a blind device owner > > > independently... > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A. > > Cummins wrote: > > > > > > WHOA! GANG! Please stop and think about what > you > > are asking for! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's > > not corner ourselves into > > > only one answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > True accessibility is opening the doors to many > > options and not just one. > > > I > > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many > > different types of > > > Microphones and many different types of guitars > > and other instruments > > > RIGHT?! So why would I want to have only one > > keyboard company making an > > > accessible keyboard. OH, I know, we can write > all > > of them, but we'll be > > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a > > second thought. Rather, we > > > need to approach an individual or individuals > that > > can get us access to > > > all > > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing > > data free from one to the > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for > the > > blind way back in the > > > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever > > happen to the industry was > > > the development of the MIDI interface. This > > happens to be one of the only > > > industries that sat down and worked out a > standard > > by which all computer > > > based instrument could exchange data and control > > one another. This data > > > flow is our key to accessibility! We just need > to > > find the person and or > > > persons that would continue to bring all of the > > concepts together. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even venture to say that a foundation > like > > the Microsoft > > > Foundation > > > would underwrite the development of the > technology > > if one were to organize > > > and manage just such a project. > > > > > > > > > > > > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily > > hardware. > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day! > > > > > > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime! > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots > has > > done for us all ready! > > > I > > > propose that someone take up the cause of > finding > > Dancing Dots the > > > underwriters for their and our benefit! > > > > > > > > > > > > God bless you all this Thanksgiving! > === message truncated === Omar Binno " Everything is possible; it's just that the impossible things take a little longer to figure out!" - Author Unknown ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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