[ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

I'd use a rack-mount PC as it'd be more theft resistant and a bit more 
protected, and a wireless keyboard...  (grin)

Nick


On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:38 -0000, Tim Burgess wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd use a laptop although I suppose there's potential in the rise of
 accessible PDA devices - haven't seen a MIDI interface for one of those yet,
 though.  

 -----Original Message-----
 From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 Behalf Of omar binno
 Sent: 25 November 2005 11:49
 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

 Hi Tim:

 Would this screen reader be dependent on a computer though, or is it a
 separate device capable of functioning independently?

 --- Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 > The ideal way would be to take the output from your screen reader into 
 > your keyboard mixer then use headphones (noise-cancellers would be 
 > ideal) to monitor your speech and foldback outputs).
 > 
 > Cheers.
 > 
 > Tim
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of omar binno
 > Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20
 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
 > 
 > Good idea. My question is though, if we need a computer for a device 
 > like this; how can such a device be used on stage for those of us who 
 > use our synths a lot in live performances?
 > 
 > --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 > 
 > > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a
 > keyboard were to be made
 > > accessible, it should be done through a midi
 > channel of some sort,
 > > where the computer would output the speech from
 > the  unit.  It would
 > > be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself
 > as you wouldn't want
 > > to have some device talking through a PA system
 > while doing a gig.
 > > furthermore if an accessible
 > > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks
 > on the list who own
 > > older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg
 > Triton wouldn't want
 > > to give up those units just to purchase an
 > accessible unit worth
 > > thousands of dollars.
 > > Again my opinion is that the accessible part would
 > have to be
 > > implimented through a midi channel, and have
 > output spoken on the
 > > computer, or braille display itself.
 > > 
 > > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I
 > wouldn't trade it for
 > > anything at this point in time.
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM
 > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
 > > 
 > > 
 > > >I certainly think you're on the right page. 
 > Seems
 > > to me that having
 > > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI
 > > standard, to allow their
 > > >devices to send
 > > > data in a manner analagous to the way that some
 > of
 > > the Kurzweil's do, Dave
 > > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used,
 > might
 > > be the direction.  The
 > > > less
 > > > well-thought out less well articulated the
 > > request, the sillier will be
 > > > the results.  This is the kind of thing that it
 > > would be good to have
 > > > someone get behind
 > > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M.
 > > or similar industry-wide
 > > > conferences.  I would think, for instance,
 > getting
 > > the CakeWalk folks,
 > > > perhaps
 > > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools
 > folks,
 > > to present a combined
 > > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say
 > > Jerry, the JSonar, and
 > > > Dancing
 > > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and
 > > suggested means by which this
 > > > could be accomplished, which would then be
 > > endorsed by the software folks
 > > > previously mentioned.  I would say, for
 > instance,
 > > allow the end-user of a
 > > > device tp press a button, maybe with a
 > > standardized shape or symbol on it,
 > > > which
 > > > would envoke the data transfer process on a
 > > specific channel, so that
 > > > commencement of the control process could be
 > done
 > > by a blind device owner
 > > > independently...
 > > >
 > > > Nick
 > > >
 > > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A.
 > > Cummins wrote:
 > > >
 > > > WHOA! GANG!  Please stop and think about what
 > you
 > > are asking for!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's
 > > not corner ourselves into
 > > > only one answer.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > True accessibility is opening the doors to many
 > > options and not just one. 
 > > > I
 > > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many
 > > different types of
 > > > Microphones and many different types of guitars
 > > and other instruments
 > > > RIGHT?!  So why would I want to have only one
 > > keyboard company making an
 > > > accessible keyboard.  OH, I know, we can write
 > all
 > > of them, but we'll be
 > > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a
 > > second thought.  Rather, we
 > > > need to approach an individual or individuals
 > that
 > > can get us access to
 > > > all
 > > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing
 > > data free from one to the
 > > > other.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for
 > the
 > > blind way back in the
 > > > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever
 > > happen to the industry was
 > > > the development of the MIDI interface.  This
 > > happens to be one of the only
 > > > industries that sat down and worked out a
 > standard
 > > by which all computer
 > > > based instrument could exchange data and control
 > > one another.  This data
 > > > flow is our key to accessibility!  We just need
 > to
 > > find the person and or
 > > > persons that would continue to bring all of the
 > > concepts together.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I would even venture to say that a foundation
 > like
 > > the Microsoft
 > > > Foundation
 > > > would underwrite the development of the
 > technology
 > > if one were to organize
 > > > and manage just such a project.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily
 > > hardware.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day!
 > > >
 > > > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots
 > has
 > > done for us all ready! 
 > > > I
 > > > propose that someone take up the cause of
 > finding
 > > Dancing Dots the
 > > > underwriters for their and our benefit!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > God bless you all this Thanksgiving!
 > 
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 Omar Binno

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