[ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

Because if you're using a sequencer for a whole night's gig, you're probably 
going to go with a rack-mount or laptop computer rather than having to werstle 
with the sequencers in the hardware...  With the facilities of a multi-port 
rack mount midi system, you can control everything from effects processors, to 
lights, 
and a click-track for the pieces.  Seems like, on this list, the preponderance 
of computer knowledgeable personel in the band is going to be a blind guy out 
of necessity, and the blind guy is going to be running the group to get out 
from under the transportation bug-a-boo...  

Nick

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:19:50 -0800 (PST), omar binno wrote:

 Good idea. My question is though, if we need a
 computer for a device like this; how can such a device
 be used on stage for those of us who use our synths a
 lot in live performances?

 --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a keyboard
 > were to be made 
 > accessible, it should be done through a midi channel
 > of some sort, where the 
 > computer would output the speech from the  unit.  It
 > would be silly to have 
 > speech ouput from a unit itself as you wouldn't want
 > to have some device 
 > talking through a PA system while doing a gig. 
 > furthermore if an accessible 
 > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks on
 > the list who own older 
 > modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg Triton
 > wouldn't want to give up 
 > those units just to purchase an accessible unit
 > worth thousands of dollars. 
 > Again my opinion is that the accessible part would
 > have to be implimented 
 > through a midi channel, and have output spoken on
 > the computer, or braille 
 > display itself.
 > 
 > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I
 > wouldn't trade it for anything 
 > at this point in time.
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM
 > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
 > 
 > 
 > >I certainly think you're on the right page.  Seems
 > to me that having 
 > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI
 > standard, to allow their 
 > >devices to send
 > > data in a manner analagous to the way that some of
 > the Kurzweil's do, Dave 
 > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, might
 > be the direction.  The 
 > > less
 > > well-thought out less well articulated the
 > request, the sillier will be 
 > > the results.  This is the kind of thing that it
 > would be good to have 
 > > someone get behind
 > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M.
 > or similar industry-wide 
 > > conferences.  I would think, for instance, getting
 > the CakeWalk folks, 
 > > perhaps
 > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools folks,
 > to present a combined 
 > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say
 > Jerry, the JSonar, and 
 > > Dancing
 > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and
 > suggested means by which this 
 > > could be accomplished, which would then be
 > endorsed by the software folks
 > > previously mentioned.  I would say, for instance,
 > allow the end-user of a 
 > > device tp press a button, maybe with a
 > standardized shape or symbol on it, 
 > > which
 > > would envoke the data transfer process on a
 > specific channel, so that 
 > > commencement of the control process could be done
 > by a blind device owner
 > > independently...
 > >
 > > Nick
 > >
 > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A.
 > Cummins wrote:
 > >
 > > WHOA! GANG!  Please stop and think about what you
 > are asking for!
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's
 > not corner ourselves into
 > > only one answer.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > True accessibility is opening the doors to many
 > options and not just one. 
 > > I
 > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many
 > different types of
 > > Microphones and many different types of guitars
 > and other instruments
 > > RIGHT?!  So why would I want to have only one
 > keyboard company making an
 > > accessible keyboard.  OH, I know, we can write all
 > of them, but we'll be
 > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a
 > second thought.  Rather, we
 > > need to approach an individual or individuals that
 > can get us access to 
 > > all
 > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing
 > data free from one to the
 > > other.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for the
 > blind way back in the
 > > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever
 > happen to the industry was
 > > the development of the MIDI interface.  This
 > happens to be one of the only
 > > industries that sat down and worked out a standard
 > by which all computer
 > > based instrument could exchange data and control
 > one another.  This data
 > > flow is our key to accessibility!  We just need to
 > find the person and or
 > > persons that would continue to bring all of the
 > concepts together.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > I would even venture to say that a foundation like
 > the Microsoft 
 > > Foundation
 > > would underwrite the development of the technology
 > if one were to organize
 > > and manage just such a project.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily
 > hardware.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day!
 > >
 > > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime!
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots has
 > done for us all ready! 
 > > I
 > > propose that someone take up the cause of finding
 > Dancing Dots the
 > > underwriters for their and our benefit!
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > God bless you all this Thanksgiving!
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Sean A. Cummins
 > >
 > >
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