[ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

Hi Tim:

Would this screen reader be dependent on a computer
though, or is it a separate device capable of
functioning independently?

--- Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The ideal way would be to take the output from your
> screen reader into your
> keyboard mixer then use headphones (noise-cancellers
> would be ideal) to
> monitor your speech and foldback outputs).  
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of omar binno
> Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
> 
> Good idea. My question is though, if we need a
> computer for a device like
> this; how can such a device be used on stage for
> those of us who use our
> synths a lot in live performances?
> 
> --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a
> keyboard were to be made 
> > accessible, it should be done through a midi
> channel of some sort, 
> > where the computer would output the speech from
> the  unit.  It would 
> > be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself
> as you wouldn't want 
> > to have some device talking through a PA system
> while doing a gig.
> > furthermore if an accessible
> > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks
> on the list who own 
> > older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg
> Triton wouldn't want 
> > to give up those units just to purchase an
> accessible unit worth 
> > thousands of dollars.
> > Again my opinion is that the accessible part would
> have to be 
> > implimented through a midi channel, and have
> output spoken on the 
> > computer, or braille display itself.
> > 
> > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I
> wouldn't trade it for 
> > anything at this point in time.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
> > 
> > 
> > >I certainly think you're on the right page. 
> Seems
> > to me that having 
> > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI
> > standard, to allow their 
> > >devices to send
> > > data in a manner analagous to the way that some
> of
> > the Kurzweil's do, Dave 
> > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used,
> might
> > be the direction.  The 
> > > less
> > > well-thought out less well articulated the
> > request, the sillier will be 
> > > the results.  This is the kind of thing that it
> > would be good to have 
> > > someone get behind
> > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M.
> > or similar industry-wide 
> > > conferences.  I would think, for instance,
> getting
> > the CakeWalk folks, 
> > > perhaps
> > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools
> folks,
> > to present a combined 
> > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say
> > Jerry, the JSonar, and 
> > > Dancing
> > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and
> > suggested means by which this 
> > > could be accomplished, which would then be
> > endorsed by the software folks
> > > previously mentioned.  I would say, for
> instance,
> > allow the end-user of a 
> > > device tp press a button, maybe with a
> > standardized shape or symbol on it, 
> > > which
> > > would envoke the data transfer process on a
> > specific channel, so that 
> > > commencement of the control process could be
> done
> > by a blind device owner
> > > independently...
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A.
> > Cummins wrote:
> > >
> > > WHOA! GANG!  Please stop and think about what
> you
> > are asking for!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's
> > not corner ourselves into
> > > only one answer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > True accessibility is opening the doors to many
> > options and not just one. 
> > > I
> > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many
> > different types of
> > > Microphones and many different types of guitars
> > and other instruments
> > > RIGHT?!  So why would I want to have only one
> > keyboard company making an
> > > accessible keyboard.  OH, I know, we can write
> all
> > of them, but we'll be
> > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a
> > second thought.  Rather, we
> > > need to approach an individual or individuals
> that
> > can get us access to 
> > > all
> > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing
> > data free from one to the
> > > other.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for
> the
> > blind way back in the
> > > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever
> > happen to the industry was
> > > the development of the MIDI interface.  This
> > happens to be one of the only
> > > industries that sat down and worked out a
> standard
> > by which all computer
> > > based instrument could exchange data and control
> > one another.  This data
> > > flow is our key to accessibility!  We just need
> to
> > find the person and or
> > > persons that would continue to bring all of the
> > concepts together.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would even venture to say that a foundation
> like
> > the Microsoft 
> > > Foundation
> > > would underwrite the development of the
> technology
> > if one were to organize
> > > and manage just such a project.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily
> > hardware.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day!
> > >
> > > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots
> has
> > done for us all ready! 
> > > I
> > > propose that someone take up the cause of
> finding
> > Dancing Dots the
> > > underwriters for their and our benefit!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > God bless you all this Thanksgiving!
> 
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Omar Binno

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