I certainly think you're on the right page. Seems to me that having manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI standard, to allow their devices to send data in a manner analagous to the way that some of the Kurzweil's do, Dave Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, might be the direction. The less well-thought out less well articulated the request, the sillier will be the results. This is the kind of thing that it would be good to have someone get behind and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M. or similar industry-wide conferences. I would think, for instance, getting the CakeWalk folks, perhaps because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools folks, to present a combined proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say Jerry, the JSonar, and Dancing Dots putting together the "wish list" and suggested means by which this could be accomplished, which would then be endorsed by the software folks previously mentioned. I would say, for instance, allow the end-user of a device tp press a button, maybe with a standardized shape or symbol on it, which would envoke the data transfer process on a specific channel, so that commencement of the control process could be done by a blind device owner independently... Nick On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A. Cummins wrote: WHOA! GANG! Please stop and think about what you are asking for! I am all for asking companies to help, but let's not corner ourselves into only one answer. True accessibility is opening the doors to many options and not just one. I don't know about the rest of you, but I own many different types of Microphones and many different types of guitars and other instruments RIGHT?! So why would I want to have only one keyboard company making an accessible keyboard. OH, I know, we can write all of them, but we'll be lucky if one even gives such a small market a second thought. Rather, we need to approach an individual or individuals that can get us access to all of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing data free from one to the other. I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for the blind way back in the early eighties, and the best thing to have ever happen to the industry was the development of the MIDI interface. This happens to be one of the only industries that sat down and worked out a standard by which all computer based instrument could exchange data and control one another. This data flow is our key to accessibility! We just need to find the person and or persons that would continue to bring all of the concepts together. I would even venture to say that a foundation like the Microsoft Foundation would underwrite the development of the technology if one were to organize and manage just such a project. Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily hardware. Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day! Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime! In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots has done for us all ready! I propose that someone take up the cause of finding Dancing Dots the underwriters for their and our benefit! God bless you all this Thanksgiving! Sean A. Cummins ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.6/179 - Release Date: 11/23/2005 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq