[ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?

Aaaaah, thanks Gord, I didn't realise you could do that. I'll give it a try. I'm quite amazed so far at the opportunities presented by being able to sample. Yesterday, I sampled a synthesized instrument from a song and played it back. It was only one note, but its sound was fine for the most of the keyboard range. Anyway, enough sidetracking, the main point was I'll try it and thanks.
Hope you're well
Thanks DJX by the way, I got your reply too, but had no chance to reply until now.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:19 PM
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David:
You will need to write an sfz sample definition that uses both .wav files and load it instead of the wav files themselves.
Gord
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Eagle" <deagle_889@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:54 PM
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Hi again, hope you're keeping well (appologies for the groce assumption
of you being well in the first place). Today, I got a chance to play with
SFZ. I've got it working fine, but now I have a few questions, or maybe just
one or two actually. Anyway here we go:


I can asign the sample to play up and down the keyboard, with a rout note,
changing pitch respectively as I move across the keys. However, if I want to
sample more than one note, say I have a real g and a real c sample that I
wish to asign to these notes, how would I do it? I think I understand how,
but I don't get how it would work, if you have to load one wave file in to
the SFZ insert at a time.


Actually that will do for now, as this is quite lengthy.

If its easier to talk rather than email and you have skype then we could
talk that way. I can't remember my username so you'll have to give me yours.
Thanks and sorry for this email's length.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?



O yes I forgot there was such a thing, don't worry about it, install the
vst, and away you go!

Good luck, DJX


-----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:21 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?

There seems to be a free version as well as a demo version which has more
features apparently. It doesn't seem to be advertised very clearly but the
full version is DXI and the free is VST. As a result, I will have to
finally


reinstall my VST adapter because it seems to have broken, then I shall be
sampling like a maniac. Yehhhh!





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Not sure, sfz player is free...not normal...

DJX

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2HI, I can play samples fine now, however the sound periodically fades. I
downloaded the DXI version not the vst version, so maybe that's got
something to do with it. Do you know why the sound would fade. Its almost
like its a demo version.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:42 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?



Ah, try this: copy and paste it if you like:

<region> sample=chime.wav pitch_keycenter=c4

You need the <region> tag, it specifies a new region on the keyboard,
the
sample=... Is self explanatory, and the pitch_keycenter=... Is not
necessary
if you specify a key, but if you are mapping across the entire keyboard
(which is not a good idea to do with a single sample) this tag specifies
which key plays the original sample at its original pitch...
Now save this file as test.sfz, not txt, sfz.
Put it on the same directory as your chime.wav file, in the sfz player,
using the jaws cursor, arrow to coordinates x (left and right arrow) 196
(or
somewhere close to that) and y (up and down arrows) 113 (also somewhere
close to this). Then you can left click and a dialog for opening files
comes up, navigate to the file you created, press enter on it, and it
should
work! If you can't find the file, make sure you check and that the
final
extension is .sfz, not .txt, notepad usually appends it on the files it
creates, so if I were you I'd rename it.


If you can't get it to work, let me know, and we can probably do a voice
convo, as there are small details that need to be worked out, but which
e-mail just make harder...


HTH, DJX


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Hi, thanks for helping. This is what I have done. I opened notepad and
typed

in the following:
sample=chime.wav

The file is obviously called chime.wav. ON the website, it mentions
other
parameters that can be typed in, though I assumed that simply typing in
the
wave file name would trigger all over the keyboard. Is this right? I
then
saved my txt file in the same folder as my wave file. I don't know how
to
use the jaws cursor with soundfonts but I did insert the rjc SFZ DXI in
to
sonar as a softsynth.


Thanks


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----- Original Message ----- From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?



O yes the good old sound forge midi triggers...if you still wanna go
that
route, try checking midi imputs and outputs in soundforge, maybe in
options?
I'm not sure, never tried it myself, though I will get around to it
sometime...
However the site I gave is the sfz format site, sfz is a new sample
format,
like giga, soundfont, halion etc, which you use a text editor like
notepda,
write your samples definitions, place the samples along with the
definition
file in a directory, and load the definition file in to the sfz player,
which ships with sonar 5 but which is also available on the sfz site,
then
your samples will trigger from your midi device, depending on how you
defined them in the definition file. It was made for ppl like myself
and
many others, who are half musicians, half programmers etc lol, once you
learn the concept of the tags and how to use them you will be on your
way,
if you need help with it, let me know and we can do a little talk on
something, me you and whoever else is interested in this sfz stuff, I
heard
of it fro Gorden Kent, and from there I flew with it, however I'm sure
he
can also give you guys a hand on whatever I don't know...
The advantage of sfz is that it's a text based coding standard, so we
don't
have to go using the mouse to edit parameters on unaccessible sampler
screens, we can write tags and values to controll envelopes filters and
anything else we like!
If ya got more questions, fire away!


HTH, DJX



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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:33 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?

Hi, thanks for the information. My mind is boggling. I will try and
explain
what I know.

I have sound forge on my computer as well as sonar. I understand in
sound
forge there is a way of inserting and creating regions and I have
attempted
to work it out to play samples via my keyboard. For example, I have a
wave
file loaded up called chime.wav. It is a single bell chime sound. I
then
select all with control A. I then go to insert region. it says name 01.
I
keep it at that. It has the start time, finish time, and length of my
sample. I then select "Midi note on play" as I assume this is what I
want.

I

then press ok. I then play the keyboard and nothing happens. Obviously
this
what I am doing is totally wrong, but I don't understand what the
website
you pointed me to is saying. It explains what to do but not in which
program.


Sorry for my ignorance. I am grateful for the help.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?



Hey, go to:
http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfzformat.htm
Read up on it, and then shoot the questions over my way, I'm we'll be
able
to help you. It's really a great sampler/sampling format, I use it
all
the
time!


HTH, DJX

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:09 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?

Hi! I am very keen to develop music using samplers. So far I have had
to
use


my bad quality mono sampler on my keyboard. Can you explain how to get
my
wave files in to the SFZ format. I would be emencely greatful if you
could
help with this as I have been trying to trigger waves or convert to
midi
for


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