[softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro 2.92 (19 January 2007) Windows
- From: Martin Wuerthner <public@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: davidpilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:03:25 +0100
In message <45B5C5DA.1070806@xxxxxxxx>
Clive Bonsall <C.Bonsall@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> David Pilling wrote:
>> In message <45B1F14B.2070606@xxxxxxxx>, Clive Bonsall
>> <C.Bonsall@xxxxxxxx> writes
>>> One answer to your question, perhaps, is provided by the different
>>> behaviour of small caps between OPW and MSWORD.
>>
>> If MS Word does change the characters then it would not be as good a
>> system as OP, because in general you would not be able to remove the
>> effect - well it depends how clever they are with applying and removing
>> effects, but your example of copying to the clipboard illustrates the
>> problem.
>
> That is the intersting thing ... MS Word (and WordPad) is able to
> recognize that (its own) small caps is lower case with an effect
> applied, and is able to remove it again. But to other programs (Notepad,
> OPW) it appears as caps.
Obviously, transfer to most other programs is via unformatted plain
text, so MSWord has to take a decision there. It decides to export
text with small caps applied in uppercase because that most closely
resembles the way it looks. That does not mean that the underlying
text in Word is in uppercase - and it clearly is not because you can
remove the Small caps effect, which restores the text to its original
appearance. So, inside MSWord it is an effect precisely as in
OvationPro (and MSWord has an "Uppercase" effect, too, which OP does
not have).
The only difference is that when you save some text with Small caps
applied as plain text from OvationPro it is not converted to
uppercase.
With the "Small caps" effect it is debatable which is the better way.
It is a bit clearer with MSWord's "Uppercase" effect: Surely, if the
text appears all uppercase, most users would be surprised if exporting
it showed lowercase characters? On the other hand, the underlying
characters may well be lowercase (as demonstrated by removing the
effect). I guess, this is a typical case of the MS mentality: Always
do what causes the least surprise to the naive even if it leads to
inconsistencies that puzzle those who are in the know.
Martin
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