[softwarelist] Re: Cut'n'paste a whole OvPro page?

> Test 2: Copy and Paste, but this time de-select the master frame as I've
> been told to do. Not convinced, seems to be a bad idea

The reason someone suggested to deselect the master frame was because, as a
master frame in the default document it would usually be auto-linked, which
would prevent the copy working. So either you (temporarily) remove all links
in any of the frames you want to copy (including master frames), as in your
Test 1, or you select only frames which you know are not linked, e.g. by
deselecting an auto-linked master frame.

> however, here goes...
>
> Click in document but outside the master frame.
> Ctrl-Shift-A to select all.
> De-select  master frame.
>
> Ctrl-C
>
> New document, Ctrl-V
>
> Hohoho! as I expected, the graphics and any text in text frames transfers
> okay, but the body text is missing.

Exactly -- it did what you told it to. As I implied before, text in
auto-linked frames is not part of any particular page (except, arguably, the
very first page on which the frame occurs) -- it's only flowing through it
(in one end and out the other). It's like a garden with a stream running
through it -- you could move the static elements, such as turf and plants
(i.e. self-contained graphics and/or text frames) to another plot, but
although you could (somehow?!) move the bed of the stream (auto-linked text
frame) too, all the water (text) would run away -- so Ovation Pro doesn't
let you try. If you want to show someone elsewhere the stream running
through the garden you need to take a picture of it at a particular point in
time (save the page as drawfile or PDF, or print, e.g. to PostScript.).

OK, silly analogy, but you might see what I mean. There are good reason for
not being able to copy auto-linked frames. It's more frustrating when there
are at least two frames linked to each other on a page, but not back to the
first, so there's no possibility of text flowing onto or off that page, and
yet it still won't let you copy them without de-linking them first and
re-linking afterwards. But, in all the years I've been using Ovation Pro,
that has very rarely happened, so for me it doesn't register on the scale of
irritation in comparison with other things!


Peter Newble.



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