[dance-tech] Re: repertory worlds
- From: Nick Rothwell <nick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dance-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:31:53 +0000
Hey Nick,
Hey Dawn,
The above comment makes me think of the Limon company, which is now
a sort of Rep company. They perform the historical works of Jose
Limon, which are decades old, along side contemporary works by
Limon alum or other nearly related young choreographers. I like
this concept. While it keeps the history of a founder in the
present, the company dancers can still grow and be challenged by
new work.
Absolutely. And of course, many choreographers make works for other
companies, which then go into the companies' repertoires. This isn't
(yet) possible for technology-reliant works until there is a lingua
franca for the actual technology components (in terms both of
transfer between practitioners and longevity). If/when there is, it
will be interesting to see whether there is a desire for older
technological works to be wheeled out and shown. I don't see any
reason why not, if they have artistic merit. Perhaps a good yardstick
for a dance/tech piece is: will this piece still work when the
technology is sufficiently entrenched to not be at all interesting?
In a rather serendipitous turn, I'm just starting to work with Marc
Downie's FIELD media software platform (more information at http://
www.openendedgroup.com/index.php/software/), and have just read his
ACM paper describing it. I don't know whether the paper is publically
available, but I'll take the liberty of lifting out a few sentences:
"Ultimately, for our purposes in this paper, we claim that both those
that program and those
that make art with computers find themselves very much on the outside
of many of the forces
that shape the bases of their craft. Digital new-media artists remain
far away from the power
centers that develop the technology upon which their media is based
in a way that is almost
unrecognizable in the history of other “new media”. The development
of photography, film, and
even video have all been marked by an integration of practicing
artist and technical
development. But today, such digital artists remain largely parasitic
on hardware developments
driven by computer games and software advances driven by the needs of
either commercial
design or Hollywood production. This is at least echoed in digital
artists’ relationship to their
tools as well as in the kinds of relationships that these tools offer."
This seems to resonate with the point I made yesterday about artists'
reliance on proprietary technology designed with other markets in
mind - often, the business model works against efforts to open or
share the technology in ways which are amenable to repertory.
Exactament! And, while we are at it, can we get rid of Post-
Modernism too!
Aw, no - I'm a bit of a fan.
I did not go see Richard this weekend, even though I could have. I
am sorry that I missed it but I am taking a little time off from
seeing anything right now. But, hence the comment about Kammer/
Kammer is exactly what I hope for all of us D&Ter's. Just make the
work using whatever methods you use and promote it's concept/
content rather then it's gizmo's. Nuff said.
...except when publicity and marketing demand to use the technology
to sell the work, because it's easier to talk about and photograph.
This problem is as big an issue in music as well as dance
performance: many of the times I've been interviewed about arts
projects, it hasn't taken long for the line of questioning to get
around to "so, tell me about the equipment you're using here".
But sometimes, I think, it's possible to get the balance just right
and hit a sweet spot. In Margie Medlin's QUARTET project (http://
www.quartetproject.net) we had huge quantities of technology, but (in
my opinion) the most successful vignette was a relatively simple, but
very moving, duet between a dancer and a motion control robot. The
technology is very apparent, but its anthropomorphism allows the
piece to work on an emotional level. (Similar, I suppose, to the
Compagnie Beau Geste performance with the mechanical digger: http://
www.danceumbrella.co.uk/festival_artists_BeauGeste.html . Is that a
dance technology piece?)
Was this the kind of wrap around score program that was kind of
like a musical score with different colors that represented
different phrase material...or something to that effect? I remember
talking with you and Michael about this years ago at Sadler's
Wells...software for dancers maybe?
Yep, that's the one. (I don't know whether this mailing list is
archived, but Scott deLahunta posted a detailed interview in May
2002.) We didn't get the support necessary to build any kind of
generic platform, so the pieces we made at Ballett Frankfurt used
bespoke software. Already (six years on) it would take a bit of
effort to get them working again on current hardware.
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