[dance-tech] ?: Re: IDAT in the blue sky

Dear Johannes, friends and list,

Hello from TOKYO.
Happy New Year 2006.

If possible, we need to select the moderator of this, new dance-tech list as
soon as possible.
We need to protect the list from SPAMS and error messages.
Even in Syndicate list, these troubles happens, and I sometimes cannot
stand.
I remember Scott had strong sence of responsiblity to moderate the list

If moderator is selected, he or she need to work for the list itself as a
volunteer.
In Japan, I have been moderating the first interdisciplinary dance research
network for 7 years.
I worked for the list as a vulunteer.
With this list, I worked with free mail service, yahoogroup.
I do not need to mentenance listserv server by myself.
FYI, in WDA, I am moderating discussion group for them as a volunteer with
Europian dance reesarcher.
 
We need to think and decide the governance of this list itself.
It would be nice to start any organization from these processes and actions.
As you know, Free Software Foundation is supported by so many volunteers.
On the other hand, Linux takes interesting business model.
If we get any grant or budget on this project, we will find another
possiblity.

Shall we keep discussing this subject ?

I will keep supporting next conference and hope to meet all of you in
Monaco.

Warmest Regards,
Yukihiko YOSHIDA
International Advisory Committee(Digital Community), Prix Ars Electronica
2005
Research and Documentation Network,World Dance Alliance Asia Pacific

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Happy New Year to all :


It's always good to start a new year with a little debate, and now Jamie
Jewett has planted a seed that could be worth pursuing, a discussion not
only about future meeting points, events, workshops, conferences or
festivals, for those in the intersecting communities of dance/ performance/
music and art technologies and digital media practices, but also perhaps
this question ---whether we need these meetings and where we need them and
how we construct them---may need to go along with a necessary awareness of
the historical trajectores that lie behind us, that have emerged and
diverged. "IDAT," I suppose, was an umbrella name once used (in North
America) for important gatherings (conference-exhibitions) of the evolving
dance technology community in the 1990s, several (I believe four or  five
altogether) having taken place in Canada and the US........  but as Simon
Biggs correctly points out, not everyone elsewhere knows that name, nor is
that name a TM that belongs to anyone who at one point or another took it
upon themselves to host an international dance and technology meeting......
and the more I think about it, the less I remember, and i can't find an
archive of these "idats."  Which is perhaps truly regrettable, although the
"proceedings" were properly collected in print and edited, the last one
dating back to 1999 (held at ASU and organized by John Mitchell and his
team).

http://art.net/resources/dtz/dtz.html

I then looked up the dance and technology zone archive, and could not find
many references to "Idat" (prior to 1999), and the archive is incomplete and
was not continued. The dance tech mailist, initially initiated by Scott
deLahunta and Mark Coniglio  many years ago, and then moderated for a number
of years by Scott Sutherland (at one point hosted at the OSU server, then
migrated), stopped operating in March-April 2005, and we were left with
uncertainty as to what that meant, or whether it had died or would be
rejuvenated. 

As far as it concerned me at Nottingham, in the (then) final stages of
preperation for the December 2005 Digital Cultures Lab, the communication
breakdown was a very negative experience, which could only be compensated by
the already grown, existing, and expanding networks that we are all part of.
In the fall we then started this new list.  At some point, it also became
obvious to me that it was time to move forward to raise new questions and
make other connections, our performance field (and the research that feeds
into it), has grown quite complex and hybrid, and there is a constant and
expanding influx of younger generations of artists (and also students)......
but as Jamie points out, if some of you are engaged in teaching
dance/performance and new media practices, new theories of collaboration,
new interdisciplinary methods of working, or in moving towards a PhD or
shifting the educational patterns in your departments or companies, then
these histories of the field (and our lovely bibliographies) may of course
be of some relevance, even though I'd suggest the existing ones

(http://art.net/resources/dtz/biblio.html)
http://www.notam02.no/icma/interactivesystems/dance.html
http://www.music.mcgill.ca/musictech/ISIDM/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_technology
http://dance-technology.wikiverse.org/
http://staging.greatdance.com/danceblog/
and many others that might exist on various blogs or dance websites (I do
not have a complete listing, sorry) , may often be out of date or abandoned
or sleeping.  Blogs tend to be fresher, but how many blogs can one read in
one night?

As to creating an organizational structure for an "Idat" organization, yes,
that was attempted some time in 2002-03, there were elections, a board was
formed, but the Board disbanded, like rock groups sometimes do, after
finding it impossible to move forward and agree on how to move forward, and
there was no funding to underwrite the organisational formation, nor was
there a widespread agreement, in the first place, about the need for a
formal organisation.    Dancetechnology.com and .org sites say 'coming soon'
in front of a blue sky, just as we have it here in Texas. As you all know,
it takes tremendous commitment anbd idealism to run a non-profit venture. 

So i think, apart from the name "IDAT" which is used by other existing
organisations, and apart from what IDAT meant and once was,  this may be a
good time to look forward, find out about yours and others'  plans and
objectives, projects worldwide but also in smaller locations and not just
the metropoles ( bibliographies and their implicit histories,  see above,
are  often quite euro-american and  do not reflect the artistic work and the
thinking being done elsewhere), educational changes, curatorial challenges,
research implications....... , also reflecting on the cross-cultural
emphasis and the questions regarding dance and science which were featured
at the Digital Cultures Lab (http://www.digitalcultures.org).  

I would be pleased to hear more responses, productive criticism (of our
existing platforms), and suggestions regarding the planning and
implementation of larger and/or smaller meetings, conferences and
international workshops.  There is no central administration, and thus it
will be hard to avoid overlaps or scheduling conflicts.  Our new dance tech
list needs to grow as well, so that messages can reach into all parts of the
world. I heard at the DC Lab gathering that a number of initiatives in our
field are under way, -- in Turkey, in Brasil, in Portugal, in France, then
there is the MDF (Monaco Dance Forum) looming in December 2006, there are
other festivals and screenings planned (as we heard from Doug), and it might
be of a certain advantage if we create a "platform" for a calendar of
events.

More interesting, of course, are the ideas that drive such events, the new
artwork that is being created, the new sottware and the new
inter-collaborations that we see  in such astonishing and manifold ways.

regards
Johannes Birringer
Mother Dog Studios
Houston, TX
www.aliennationcompany.com






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From: dance-tech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jamie jewett
Sent: Tue 1/3/2006 4:10 PM
To: dance-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dance-tech] IDAT?
 
Greetings All!

I am wondering what the current status is of IDAT -

I know that a while back the old dance-tech/IDAT situation was dissolved or
morphed into something new - and perhaps this is a process still in progress
- as the dancetechnology.com and .org sites say 'coming soon'

We were interested in beginning to explore hosting some version of IDAT or
something similar and as such I was trying to get in touch with people who
have been involved at the organizational/board level.

Obviously we are all benefiting from Johannes continuing to offer sites for
international discussion/exploration - such as the festivals he hosted at
OSU and just recently the Digital Culture Lab - are there other movements
afoot?

trying to get in the loop -or start one..
best

Jamie Jewett
Brown University







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