It's literally on the border of Michigan .... Ponderosa on 933 there was excellent! :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~ Peter [ http://desktopproject.com ] -----Original Message----- From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russ Blakeman Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:47 PM To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! SB=South Bend (that's below you in Indiana) > -----Original Message----- > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C. > Vogel > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:02 PM > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > SB ?? > Thank you, > Eric Vogel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:18 PM > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > Eric's not far from SB - directly north of it pretty much. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:55 AM > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > How far are you from South Bend, IN? > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Peter > > > > > > [ http://desktopproject.com ] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric > > > C. Vogel > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:58 PM > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in a small city. Two Precents. I went to vote after 8a > and there > > > was 10-15 ahead of me. The other side was pretty good. They > should have > > > moved a booth over. > > > > > > Note, we have booths, complete the arrow with a black maker, rip a > > > tag off the balot, toss it in the trash, hand the person a slip, > > > slip the balot in the OptiScanner and put the protective folder on > > > top of the machine. Scanning is fast and is not the slow down, > > > people voting is. These replaced the pull lever to close curtains > > > pull levers and pull curtain lever to cast vote and get out. > > > > > > Well the equivilant of Clinton got elected. our Attorney General, > > > Jennifer Grahnholm (D). She gave no bid contracts to her husband > > > (construction) for The new Midfield Airport. She is part of the Ed > > > Macnamara engine (Top county guy for Wayne (Detroit)) so more > > > unscruplious stuff. (Points to Midfield Terminal again as one.). > > > Got into reperations, she has changed her mind on a issue (maybe > > > more I do not know) for some group or something. We loose the > > > Govenor, currently Republican. For the primary we had even worse > > > D's Blanchard (Former > > > Gov.) and anouther, but would do worse than Granholm and are > nothign bug > > > clowns. I have voted for R,D, Independent parties, I believe > in let the > > > best person win. > > > > > > Fortunatly Prop 3 was turned down. (Tobbacco money.) It would > have taken > > > control of how the money was distrobuted from the government and > > > would have gone to whoever and lost part of our freedom. Current > > > Gov. and running all were against it, plus other current and past > > > politiions. > > > > > > The old Prop A (Arts) came back as Prop K (Now Arts Parks and > > > Kids). Just rasies taxs to go to ARTS places (Parks and Kids was > > > added to get it passed and I think it did.) If I want to donate > > > money, I > will write a > > > check. I do not need the government to tell me to. I read > > > something in the Det Free Press that these places that get the > > > money are doing well and borrowing money to expand buildings. > > > Belle Isle Zoo is doing bad (Ran by Detroit Zoo. But the Zoo CEO > > > or president gets > $300,000 a year, > > > house AND car. But they'll shut down Belle Isle zoo I bet. > > > > > > I cannot find a website the lists the results of the proposals or > > > all of anything including michigan.gov and tv station websites. > > > > > > Far as I know none of my friends vote and I do not even want > to hear an > > > exuse. "Oh, I don't follow politics, so that is why I did not > vote." You > > > should see the smiles and the faces of the older people when this > > > mid-20's man walks in. That is REALLY sad. > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Eric Vogel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:49 PM > > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a typical example of why people make fun of those in > > > > rural areas as "hayseeds", "hicks", etc... > > > > > > > > We live in a town of 800, with the unincorporated area > around it also > > > voting > > > > at the same place. The machines are electronic with a motor to > > > > roll paper around for write-ins and a touch pad for balloted > > > > votes. The total population of registered voters is around 1500. > > > > There are 12 hours, 6am to 6pm, to vote in. Say 1200 eligible > > > > voters show in that 12 hours...that's > > > 200 > > > > per hour divied by 60 minutes per hour, or 3.5 voters PER > > > > MINUTE. Guess > > > what > > > > we have at our polling place - ONE MACHINE and ONE SPARE. When > > > > they opened at 6am the primary machine was DOA and they spare > > > > became the primary. The primary machine broke once per 30 > > > > minutes all day long, average 10 minutes to get the machine back > > > > on and usable. > Yada, yada, > > > > yada - you get the > > > idea. > > > > I was lucky enough to get in after they swapped the primary DOA > > > > with the spare at 6:05am > > > > > > > > Well my wife went at 10:30am - at noon she was 5 people away - > > > > BROKE > > > again. > > > > They had the one tech across the county with yet another broken > > > > machine > > > and > > > > she had an appointment so she left to come back. I went > back with her > > > > at 3:15pm....she finally got her 12 seconds of glory at 6:35pm > > > > with 200 > > > others > > > > that hadn't voted still there waiting that had come before the > > > > doors wrre locked at 6:00pm exactly. It's now 9:45 pm and they > still have 25 > > > > > > > people > > > to > > > > let vote since the machines have locked up or in other ways > > > > broken every > > > 30 > > > > mins or so. The amchine is not worn out by any means either - > > > > the > > > mechanical > > > > counter that shows total votes in the machine's life only > had 3300 on > > > > it when she voted, and the LED for votes since today's poll > > > > started was 975. > > > Go > > > > figure - 4.5 hrs to vote for 12 seconds. > > > > > > > > Many people got pissed and left - what a shame. We may end > up with one > > > > > > > of the people that have no business running get into an > office because > > > > > > > 10 or > > > 15 > > > > people left and didn't vote, despite goingt hrough all the > trouble to > > > > get out and give it a shot. > > > > > > > > I'm applying for absentee next time around and voting at home, > > > > by mail, 2 weeks in advance. I qualify with my job being so > flexible and > > > > a service > > > call > > > > possibly being away. This screwed up system will not keep me > > > > from voting > > > but > > > > I will find an easier way... > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > > > > > John McLaughlin > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:06 PM > > > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not gone to a polling place for about 6 years. > The "vote by > > > mail" > > > > > ability in Arizona allows one to get the ballot early and > > > > > actually research the little known candidates for school > > > > > boards, county and state positions (who knows anything about a > > > > > state mine inspector) and the sometimes very weird > > > > > propositions that voter signatures have placed on the ballot. > > > > > One will allow > > > medical > > > > > marijuana to be sold by the state highway patrol from their > > > > > confiscated stocks. If nothing else, purity of product will be > > > > > hard to guarantee! > > > > > > > > > > I dislike a lot of things about what we do in this > country, but most > > > > > > > > of all I hate to hear whining from folks who don't vote and > > > > > claim their vote does not make a difference. Where your vote > > > > > really does not make a difference, like > > > > > Iraq, you pretty much have to vote and sign your ballot. > > > Otherwise..... > > > > > > > > > > John on the low desert of Arizona - 80 degrees today! > > > > > > > > > > Russ Blakeman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hard to forget that it's voting day, those that don't > > > > > > generally > > > > > don't have > > > > > > much a good excuse why they didn't either. I was #4 at poll > > > > > > door at > > > 6am > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > > > > > Eric C. Vogel > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:50 AM > > > > > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Subject: [CTS] Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not forget to vote today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michigan Links > > > > > > > www.mlive.com (See Governor debate in Grand Rapids) > > > > > > > www.michigan.gov (State of Michigan portal site. Won major > > > > > awards. No more > > > > > > > www.state.mi.us/sds/d/sd/sd/s/ds/ds/d/s/d) > > > > > > > www.michigan.gov/sos (Secretary of State) > > > > > > > www.sospublius.org (Ran by SOS see where to vote and see > > > > > > > the > > > > > ballot. Note > > > > > > > you may not see city proposals. You can find some Bios and > > > > > campaign funds > > > > > > > from somewhere. Maybe the state??) http://www.lwvmi.org > > > > > > > League of Woman Voters of MI (Great guide to find info for > > > > > > > smaller candidates.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > National Links > > > > > > > www.dnet.org A little slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > Eric Vogel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --------- > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > Computer Talk Shop http://www.computertalkshop.com > > > > > > > Un-subscribe/Vacation, > > > http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/list_options.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List HowTo: http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/faq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To join Computer Talk Shop's off topic list, please goto: > > > > > > > http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/other_cts_lists.htm > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --------- > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > RB Custom Services / Clarkson, KY USA > > > > > > Professional & Dependable PC, Printer/Plotter/Bus Machine & > > > > > Network Services > > > > > > http://rbcs.8m.com (270) 242-9019 Mon-Sat 8am to 8pm incl. > > > > > > holidays === Flat rate service avail for inshop and > > > > > > ship-in/out service === > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > > Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - 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