[CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
- From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:46:36 -0600
SB=South Bend (that's below you in Indiana)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C. Vogel
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:02 PM
> To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
>
>
>
> SB ??
> Thank you,
> Eric Vogel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
>
>
> >
> > Eric's not far from SB - directly north of it pretty much.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:55 AM
> > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How far are you from South Bend, IN?
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > [ http://desktopproject.com ]
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric C.
> > > Vogel
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:58 PM
> > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I live in a small city. Two Precents. I went to vote after 8a
> and there
> > > was 10-15 ahead of me. The other side was pretty good. They
> should have
> > > moved a booth over.
> > >
> > > Note, we have booths, complete the arrow with a black maker, rip a tag
> > > off the balot, toss it in the trash, hand the person a slip, slip the
> > > balot in the OptiScanner and put the protective folder on top of the
> > > machine. Scanning is fast and is not the slow down, people voting is.
> > > These replaced the pull lever to close curtains pull levers and pull
> > > curtain lever to cast vote and get out.
> > >
> > > Well the equivilant of Clinton got elected. our Attorney General,
> > > Jennifer Grahnholm (D). She gave no bid contracts to her husband
> > > (construction) for The new Midfield Airport. She is part of the Ed
> > > Macnamara engine (Top county guy for Wayne (Detroit)) so more
> > > unscruplious stuff. (Points to Midfield Terminal again as one.). Got
> > > into reperations, she has changed her mind on a issue (maybe more I do
> > > not know) for some group or something. We loose the Govenor, currently
> > > Republican. For the primary we had even worse D's Blanchard (Former
> > > Gov.) and anouther, but would do worse than Granholm and are
> nothign bug
> > > clowns. I have voted for R,D, Independent parties, I believe
> in let the
> > > best person win.
> > >
> > > Fortunatly Prop 3 was turned down. (Tobbacco money.) It would
> have taken
> > > control of how the money was distrobuted from the government and would
> > > have gone to whoever and lost part of our freedom. Current Gov. and
> > > running all were against it, plus other current and past politiions.
> > >
> > > The old Prop A (Arts) came back as Prop K (Now Arts Parks and Kids).
> > > Just rasies taxs to go to ARTS places (Parks and Kids was added to get
> > > it passed and I think it did.) If I want to donate money, I
> will write a
> > > check. I do not need the government to tell me to. I read something in
> > > the Det Free Press that these places that get the money are doing well
> > > and borrowing money to expand buildings. Belle Isle Zoo is doing bad
> > > (Ran by Detroit Zoo. But the Zoo CEO or president gets
> $300,000 a year,
> > > house AND car. But they'll shut down Belle Isle zoo I bet.
> > >
> > > I cannot find a website the lists the results of the proposals or all
> > > of anything including michigan.gov and tv station websites.
> > >
> > > Far as I know none of my friends vote and I do not even want
> to hear an
> > > exuse. "Oh, I don't follow politics, so that is why I did not
> vote." You
> > > should see the smiles and the faces of the older people when this
> > > mid-20's man walks in. That is REALLY sad.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Eric Vogel
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's a typical example of why people make fun of those in rural
> > > > areas as "hayseeds", "hicks", etc...
> > > >
> > > > We live in a town of 800, with the unincorporated area
> around it also
> > > voting
> > > > at the same place. The machines are electronic with a motor to roll
> > > > paper around for write-ins and a touch pad for balloted votes. The
> > > > total population of registered voters is around 1500. There are 12
> > > > hours, 6am to 6pm, to vote in. Say 1200 eligible voters show in that
> > > > 12 hours...that's
> > > 200
> > > > per hour divied by 60 minutes per hour, or 3.5 voters PER MINUTE.
> > > > Guess
> > > what
> > > > we have at our polling place - ONE MACHINE and ONE SPARE. When they
> > > > opened at 6am the primary machine was DOA and they spare became the
> > > > primary. The primary machine broke once per 30 minutes all day long,
> > > > average 10 minutes to get the machine back on and usable.
> Yada, yada,
> > > > yada - you get the
> > > idea.
> > > > I was lucky enough to get in after they swapped the primary DOA with
> > > > the spare at 6:05am
> > > >
> > > > Well my wife went at 10:30am - at noon she was 5 people away - BROKE
> > > again.
> > > > They had the one tech across the county with yet another broken
> > > > machine
> > > and
> > > > she had an appointment so she left to come back. I went
> back with her
> > > > at 3:15pm....she finally got her 12 seconds of glory at 6:35pm with
> > > > 200
> > > others
> > > > that hadn't voted still there waiting that had come before the doors
> > > > wrre locked at 6:00pm exactly. It's now 9:45 pm and they
> still have 25
> > >
> > > > people
> > > to
> > > > let vote since the machines have locked up or in other ways broken
> > > > every
> > > 30
> > > > mins or so. The amchine is not worn out by any means either - the
> > > mechanical
> > > > counter that shows total votes in the machine's life only
> had 3300 on
> > > > it when she voted, and the LED for votes since today's poll started
> > > > was 975.
> > > Go
> > > > figure - 4.5 hrs to vote for 12 seconds.
> > > >
> > > > Many people got pissed and left - what a shame. We may end
> up with one
> > >
> > > > of the people that have no business running get into an
> office because
> > >
> > > > 10 or
> > > 15
> > > > people left and didn't vote, despite goingt hrough all the
> trouble to
> > > > get out and give it a shot.
> > > >
> > > > I'm applying for absentee next time around and voting at home, by
> > > > mail, 2 weeks in advance. I qualify with my job being so
> flexible and
> > > > a service
> > > call
> > > > possibly being away. This screwed up system will not keep me from
> > > > voting
> > > but
> > > > I will find an easier way...
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
> > > > > McLaughlin
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:06 PM
> > > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not gone to a polling place for about 6 years.
> The "vote by
> > > mail"
> > > > > ability in Arizona allows one to get the ballot early and actually
> > > > > research the little known candidates for school boards, county and
> > > > > state positions (who knows
> > > > > anything about a state mine inspector) and the sometimes very
> > > > > weird propositions
> > > > > that voter signatures have placed on the ballot. One will allow
> > > medical
> > > > > marijuana to be sold by the state highway patrol from their
> > > > > confiscated stocks.
> > > > > If nothing else, purity of product will be hard to guarantee!
> > > > >
> > > > > I dislike a lot of things about what we do in this
> country, but most
> > >
> > > > > of all I hate to hear whining from folks who don't vote and claim
> > > > > their vote does not
> > > > > make a difference. Where your vote really does not make a
> > > > > difference, like
> > > > > Iraq, you pretty much have to vote and sign your ballot.
> > > Otherwise.....
> > > > >
> > > > > John on the low desert of Arizona - 80 degrees today!
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ Blakeman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hard to forget that it's voting day, those that don't generally
> > > > > don't have
> > > > > > much a good excuse why they didn't either. I was #4 at poll door
> > > > > > at
> > > 6am
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > > > > Eric C. Vogel
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:50 AM
> > > > > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [CTS] Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michigan Links
> > > > > > > www.mlive.com (See Governor debate in Grand Rapids)
> > > > > > > www.michigan.gov (State of Michigan portal site. Won major
> > > > > awards. No more
> > > > > > > www.state.mi.us/sds/d/sd/sd/s/ds/ds/d/s/d)
> > > > > > > www.michigan.gov/sos (Secretary of State) www.sospublius.org
> > > > > > > (Ran by SOS see where to vote and see the
> > > > > ballot. Note
> > > > > > > you may not see city proposals. You can find some Bios and
> > > > > campaign funds
> > > > > > > from somewhere. Maybe the state??)
> > > > > > > http://www.lwvmi.org League of Woman Voters of MI (Great guide
> > > > > > > to find info for smaller candidates.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > National Links
> > > > > > > www.dnet.org A little slow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > Eric Vogel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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